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[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder why so many people bundle Electron when you can make your app run in any browser. Like, you can totally write a program that just launches the browser and makes it load a site from lokal storage

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[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago
[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe you are, but we haven't found your worst take yet.

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[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 0 points 3 weeks ago

Most applications that are Electron either only support Windows or also want to support Android, iOS and Web. I assume there is some toolkit out there that supports everything, but honestly HTML5 is more well known and tested.

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[-] arc99@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Every operating system contributed to the bloat. Windows has Win32, OS X has Carbon / Cocoa, Linux has X11 and various widget libs that sit on top of it. So it has been a perennial nut to crack to make cross platform widgets - wxWidgets, QT, SWT/JWT/Swing on Java, XMLShell (Firefox), Electron, GTK/GTK#, winelib etc.

Throw mobile platforms into the mix and it's an unholy mess. Lowest common denominator is HTML and so the likes of Electron "wins" even though it's bloated and slow.

i actually don't have a problem with HTML, i just think that instead of every app shipping their own copy of electron, the operating system should provide basic browser functionality.

[-] hydriplex@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Then that operating system gets hit with anti-trust

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[-] pelle@veganism.social 0 points 3 weeks ago

@kirk781
this is incorrect. #win32 applications run natively on #linux with #wine.

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[-] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

I feel the opposite. I expect things NOT to work on linux.

Just wait until they figure out Mac has been an OS just as long as MSDOS

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

And that macos often breaks things because of new access/'security' policies hehe.

Also, to counter all of this : c++ & qt or .net and avalonia (because maui doesnt support linux.. )

[-] klangcola@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

KDE Maui does, but Microsoft Maui doesn't .

(Sorry, I know you were referring to Microsoft Maui, I was just annoyed at being reminded how Microsoft stole the name: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Microsoft-KDE-MAUI )

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[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair. Linux starts of super light, but if used as a general OS it becomes the epitome of bloat.

Linux is like buying a car and just getting only the parking space.
If you want to use your car, first you have to install the door and interior package. Then you get inside and have to install the seat package. But the seat has adjustment levers and uses the gear shifter library because it has levers already defined.
Great now you also have a gear shifter too. But it turns out your transmission doesn't work on the new version of the library so you have to also install an older package in parallel, so now you have 2 gear shifters, no biggie.
Next up is the steering wheel, it uses the wheels package as a dependency (because both are round and can turn) so now you also have all the wheels. But those are summer tires, you need winter tires. You get the winter tire package but it needs an older version of the rim package. Unlucky for you, the download for the older rim package is unavailable, but you're in luck. Some guy included that version of rims in his completed but unrelated car project. So you clone his car and rebuild the rim package yourself. You now have a whole extra car, but it's not yours.

By the time you got your one car ready to go, you have installed the parts for 7427 different cars, 27 complete vehicles and read 593 pages of documentation.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago

this is just dumb and you should feel bad for spending so much time writing it

I have had arch installed on this laptop for 10+ years

today I look at the state of drive space

the OS is at a little less then 37GB of which 18.5GB are cached installs from pacman

cleaning the cache is as simple as paccache

10 years this install has been on this laptop and I use it daily.

Where is the bloat?

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

this is just dumb and you should feel bad for spending so much time writing it

I don't think he did, though he may have touched it up. It's old. I remember seeing it in the 90s with a number of "if [OS] were an airplane" schticks along the same line. Unix was the one where passengers all brought parts and tools and assembled it on the runway.

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