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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago

Of course the Germans have the longest spelling. Why use four letters when you can use sixteen?

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Use Friede and you already save one letter though it might carry religious overtones. Writing Fride might be ambiguous in spelling but as there's no "Fridde" it's not actually a problem. In any case the root is "Fried" (and yes belfries might have gotten their name from there) and you can be sure both Frieden and Friede are pronounced like that somewhere (over here it's Friedn and Friede), and as German spelling doesn't (officially) use apostrophes all over the place when spelling out contractions and everything writing Frid would be highly non-standard, but you'd definitely get away with it in a poem. Just don't show it to someone who studied Germanistik auf Lehramt.

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[-] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago
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[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure all the green ones are pronounced "Freed" rather than "Fred". The German one definitely is, the rule in German with "ie" or "ei" is that you pronounce the second letter, so "Frieden" is pronounced "Freeden". I think this is suprising close to "Freedom".

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's thought it is closely related to free and friend with a base meaning to love in the brotherly sense. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/frijaz

[-] BlueKey@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

German here. An 'ie' means the 'i' is streatched. So 'Frieden' is pronounced more like "Friden" with long 'i'.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So 'Freitag' is pronounced 'free-tag'?

I was taught 'ie' = 'eeee', and 'ei' = 'eye'. For an English speaker, you pronounce the name of the second letter.

When checking Google translate with audio, they pronounce 'Frieden' as 'Free-den'.

If there are exceptions to that rule I'd genuinely like to hear them.

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[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

These are always interesting. Thanks for sharing

[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It is 「ピース」or "piisu" in Japanese

Though that is a loan word version, I dont yet know if there's a native equivalent

Edit:

This is the native version of the word: https://jpdb.io/vocabulary/1154070/%E5%AE%89%E6%B3%B0/%E3%81%82%E3%82%93%E3%81%9F%E3%81%84?lang=english#a

*disclaimer: I'm learning japanese so it's not my native language

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[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Fred

Fuck Fred, that guy is an asshole.

[-] Exusia@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you can't practice all these spellings, saying the 3 words (phonetically) "Fred patch myoor" seem to be the easiest to phonetically encompass all of these. You'll sound like an idiot and mispronounce it, but if you were to be trying to surrender to an authority, it would (probably) be sufficient.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I've heard the Slavic one pronounced "meer", I think that's more common than "myoor".

Works for Romanian though, that's pronounced "patch-eh"

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[-] downpunxx@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

that's funny, Russians don't know the word for Peace, only Not War Yet

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