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Forks of Firefox like LibreWolf and Floorp are about to become more popular.

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[-] shallot@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

Oh mother fucker come on

Suicidal institution.

[-] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

Everybody needs to get their shit together, pick a successor and fundraise a fork. The only thing special about mozilla was the money skimmed from google searches and full time developers.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Forks like LibreWolf and Floorp are dead too if Mozilla completely goes to shit. They don't to development.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.

It's fine. I have always been able to disable stuff I don't want in Firefox. Stupid to do "AI" stuff but they do let you turn it off with about:config

[-] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 days ago

Time for waterfox or iceweasel

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

welp, who's got a new browser to move to?

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

I've been using Zen on desktop for a while now

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago
[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

i've been using Ironfox on mobile and Librewolf on desktop for a while now

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Does Librewolf support extensions/addons? I NEED MY ADDONS

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

It's a fork of Firefox, so yes.

[-] bigpharmasutra@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

Just going to leave this here for people recommending the alternative forks:

https://github.com/yokoffing/Betterfox?tab=readme-ov-file#browser-integration

[-] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Is Waterfox the best mobile option these days?

[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fennec is what I use. Full extension support etc.

Edit: re-reading this thread I decided to double check exactly where Fennec stands in relation to Firefox for Android. The main purpose of Fennec is to remove built in telemetry and proprietary shit.

As I understand it, this means they do tend to keep annoying / waste of time "enhancements" and features in base Firefox, so long as those features can be used with libre (or at least self-hostable) alternative services. So it is basically unopinionated about whether changes to Firefox are good or bad, just whether they can be used without connecting to Mozilla cloud / api shit.

This is arguably what we want most of the time, since you can just not use the features you don't like, but I'm not sure what the implications will be when AI shit gets more tightly integrated.

HOPEFULLY the Fennec team will understand that this proposed AI shit inherently compromises browser privacy, since it adds a layer of built in surveillance by design which, even if you could "swap out" the AI backend, given Firefox's fairly shithouse security would make an architectural change like this into an attack surface with very risky implications for privacy.

Time will tell.

[-] toarmspunies@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I know I have heard concerns voiced here about some of Ladybird's leadership, but at this point when Mozilla goes to shit is that the best lifeboat off?

[-] Inui@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Servo is a better project in that regard but both of them are far from complete and usable. I'd just use a Firefox fork like Floorp or Zen until something better comes along.

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[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

didn't librewolf also add some ai bullshit? pretty sure they did

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