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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago
[-] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

Why hestpumps? I remember seeing a video of a fresnel lens melting rock to lava. That has to be easier and higher temp than 270.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago

You already can. Use sunlight to generate electricity to power a laser. Blah blah "not economically viable" that's a skill issue. /s

[-] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 23 hours ago
[-] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago

For over a century, the dream of efficiently concentrating low-grade heat into high-temperature industrial energy has been constrained by a stubborn ceiling: 200 degrees Celsius (392 degrees Fahrenheit).
Now, a team from China has shattered that temperature limit. Using a revolutionary heat pump with no moving parts, they achieved an output of 270 degrees with a 145-degree heat source to drive the cycle.

...so a modest but significant improvement has been achieved, but nowhere near the temps required for melting ore.

But maaaaybe, theoretically, with materials and technologies not yet developed, possibly by 2040:

In a December 5 article in Nature Energy, Luo summarised various research fronts, including his team’s thermoacoustic Stirling heat pump, as promising pathways towards the realisation of ultra-high-temperature heat pumps.
He also suggested development directions for materials and technologies needed for future ultra-high-temperature heat pumps operating from 600K to 1,600K, or 327 degrees to 1,327 degrees, saying these could be achieved by 2040.

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 1 points 16 minutes ago

...so a modest but significant improvement has been achieved, but nowhere near the temps required for melting ore.

Just stack six of these in series, problem solved. /s

[-] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 1 points 6 hours ago

How can a heat pump have no moving parts?l

[-] chloroken@lemmy.ml 6 points 17 hours ago

Do you know what the phrase "pave the way" means

[-] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

I'm just tempering the headline, not throwing doubt at the research and development possibilities.

I got excited about the headline, thinking they'd experimentally achieved ore-melting temperatures with a heat pump ("Ultra-hot heatpump breakthrough paves the way [...]").

I guess I perceive 270°C as below the threshold of "ultra hot".

Later in the article it's revealed that the breakthrough experiment is paving the way to the (as yet unrealised) ultra-hot ("Luo summarised various research fronts [...] promising pathways towards the realisation of ultra-high-temperature heat pumps.")

Still -- 270°C! Commercial/domestic baking ovens when?

this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2025
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