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Trump says US 'hit' dock in Venezuela, marking first known land attack (abcnews.go.com)
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[-] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Trump has been hinting for several weeks at carrying out attacks in Venezuela. In October, he acknowledged that he had given the foreign intelligence agency, the CIA, secret orders to plan attacks in the country.

And for months, the United States has been attacking boats it claims are linked to drug trafficking from Venezuela, but it has not provided evidence that these “narcoterrorists” actually pose a direct threat to the U.S. The government argues that this threat justifies military force. However, many critics and legal experts point out that there is no proof of a direct threat to the US, thus no formal armed conflict, meaning these operations amount to illegally killings in international waters. At least 105 people have already been killed.

In fact, relatively few drugs come from Venezuela into the U.S. The synthetic opioid fentanyl causes the most fatalities in the US, but is mainly produced by Mexican cartels from Chinese raw materials, NOT Venezuelan cartels. The US seems to want to see leftist authoritarian leader Nicolás Maduro leave. Wth? So Trump is just like Putin attacking Ukraine?

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Alcohol and tobacco are by far the worst of any drugs ever created.

[-] MML@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Uh there's Krokodil (actually it turns out most of what you read is the production not the literal chemical desomorphine causing most of the issues you hear about)

[-] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

No.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

In terms of mortality it's not even close. Alcohol alone kills nearly twice as many people as all other drugs combined.

Tobacco, 5x as many.

[-] nyctre@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, but isn't that just because anyone can buy them in the supermarket? Start selling opioids in the same way and I'm pretty sure those stats would change.

Is the AK-47 the worst weapon we've created just because it's killed the most people? I don't think that's how those stats are supposed to be used, imo.

[-] ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

There are several countries that basically did this and no, the stats don't change. In fact, de-criminalizing those drugs has lead to a decrease in usage and associated deaths in all cases I'm aware of.

[-] Krono@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago

There have been many studies on this subject (none in the US, since we are under strict prohibition). They calculate both harm to user and harm to society.

Almost all these studies are in agreement that there are three classes of 'hard' drugs that are significantly worse than the rest- opioids, amphetamines, and alcohol. Many rate alcohol as slightly more destructive than the other two.

Tobacco is rated significantly less harmful, mostly because of the amount of tobacco it takes to do harm. No one dies from a single night of heavy smoking; many people die from a single night of alcohol, amphetamines, or opiates. Second-hand smoke is dangerous, but not nearly as dangerous as a drunk driver.

Personally I think these studies underrate benzodiazipines, they should be considered the fourth class of hard drugs imo.

[-] petrjanda@gonzo.markets 4 points 2 weeks ago

It seems the whole point is to provoke Maduro to respond in order to escalate into a full blown conflict. Maduro needs to go but let's not forget about Cuba, the immoral embargo on the poor Carribbean country and what did it achieve ? Nothing, the regime hasn't changed. The reason is not drugs, the reason is oil. The trump administration thinks it owns Venezuelan oil and oil is all that Trump can think about.

[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago

Here is a source from a media company that isn't the mouthpiece for DJT. That source has on the ground video footage in Venezuela. Fuck Trump, and fuck his entire administration.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

ABC isn't a government mouthpiece. I would trust the right-wing Telegraph even less.

[-] Insekticus@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

This regime is leaving a massive steaming pile of shit in its wake that it won't care about if it wins next election, or know the repercussions will absolutely savage the next democratic government into really hard positions to make reparations.

[-] n0respect@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think they do know. They want it, because they want the US government to fail. If not from direct takeover, by the method you suggest

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A dock? Such a rapey “just the tip,” approach. “Hey Venezuela, if you don’t fight back, it’ll hurt less.”

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's all he knows.

[-] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

I loved the part where he said he knows nothing about it then says afterwards he just found out about it lmao

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Rape some children then start a war to distract.

About as obvious as it gets.

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