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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

I upgraded from my 15 year old PC to one of the new Mac Minis at Xmas last year, thinking that I would be fine for gaming with my Xbox / Game Pass, and I would "skip a generation" on PC hardware. I have a small Steam / Epic library, but everything that didn't work on MacOS, I had a Game Pass version of.

Fast forward a year. Xbox shit itself, RAM and GPU prices / 2026 outlook are dismal, etc etc

What's my best option going forward for gaming? The only option I see right now is cloud gaming like GeForceNOW, but it seems like such a ripoff.

Any advice?

Edit- a lot of people are fixating on GamePass. I canceled my GamePass sub when the price went up. I no longer have it.

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[-] Brewchin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Game Pass sounds great, but the average game play time is ~2 weeks. You're paying $240–480/year to skim the surface of multiple games.

That's a lot for what is essentially a demo experience. There are better ways to approach gaming.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 7 points 1 week ago

Get a Steam Deck? You can hook it up like a PC, use it sat around. Though its not a powerhouse. Wait and see how the Steam Machine fairs? There's still a good second hand market for parts too.

Its a shitty time at the moment with scumbag companies and AI, so consumers are completely fucked.

Also: Fuck subscriptions.
Plus the game pass versions of games are complete dogshit compared to the Steam versions most of the time.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Check Craigslist, FB Marketplace, Letgo--just general classifieds. Can generally find decent deals on 1 to 2 generation old PCs, especially if you're near a US Military installation or college.

Edit: just checked Boulder's CL--10700k, 3080, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, and 850w PSU and a 27in, 1440p, IPS Monitor for $1000

[-] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 week ago

I'm not. You can still buy valid 12 month Xbox Live Gold subscriptions for under £40, close to the £36 before Game Pass took over. Fuck the new price. The Gold codes translate to Game Pass Core. But if you want Ultimate, well don't let me get between your lips and Microsoft's expensive arsehole

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Here's an idea that won't cost anything: Browser games! There are tons of great Incremental games playable for free on a browser, and plenty of other games too.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I've consistently refused to buy in to Game Pass. I still buy physical games where available. If it's only digital, I'll get the Steam version for my Steam Deck.

[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The moment Game Pass wouldn't let me cheese the system and get it for like $1-2 a month, I quit bothering with it. I knew they were trying to get people hooked and raise prices. It was only like a year later and then even my friends canceled theirs.

I buy games heavily on sale, or sail the seas.

Luckily my gaming PC is more than good enough to ride out the next 5 years. knocks on wood. 5800X3D + 6800 XT.

For anyone else cross your fingers the GabeCube isn't too expensive $$$.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I downgraded to the lowest tier, so technically they lost money on me.

[-] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Have a look at the Heroic Launcher. I remember reading it included a feature to play some Windows games in compatibility mode or something?

Apart from that I guess it's Geforce Now, Amazon Luna etc...

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago
[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I don't know you, but I have more games in my library than gaming hours in a month. I haven't touched anything released in the past three years, and mostly replay older games and emulators. The entire PS1 and PS2 library, as well as Nintendo 64, GBA, DS, etc... can be played on your fridge, and you can pirate those games for free, or buy their remasters (if they's any) for cheap.

[-] pory@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Never paid a subscription in the first place.

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

How shockingly good for you.

I'm so happy you provided me this great advice in answer to my question.

Maybe you should have subscribed to "How Not To Be a Huge Ass on the Internet Quarterly". A lot of people like it for the pictures, but I read it for the articles.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

That's the old price. GamePass Ultimate went up briefly from $14.99 to $19.99 then doubled (from its original price) to $29.99 per month.

I got locked in at the original price. Better yet, I got the GamePass All Access deal right before it went away. That gets you the $500 Xbox Series X and 2 years of GamePass Ultimate for about 35 bucks a month. If you consider GPU to be $15 a month, that pushes the Xbox down to $480. Not a bad deal at all! You get the Xbox and a 24-month code straight up and make payments (it's a credit card with 0% interest for that purchase, so you have to qualify for it). That's why I have an XSX and not a PS5 like I would have liked. I couldn't come up with $500 straight up for a PS5, but I could make $35 a month for 2 years plus I got GamePass.

I still game on my Xbox (I'm a Mac user on computers — we got Cyberpunk and Blue Prince last year, and I own both on Steam, but they play better on my Xbox). I just buy games on sale. I got the Mass Effect Legendary Edition (remaster of the Shepard trilogy) for $6. That sale is still on. They also have Mass Effect 4 for $3 (or $4 for Deluxe) and the first one (OG 360 version) for $5. Bought all of it. Love those games. I got Hogwarts Legacy for $10. That nasty trans-hating Harry Potter author didn't have any input in the game and in fact it has a bunch of gay couples and a trans character to spite her. I really don't like her views and avoided the game for a couple years, but I'm hooked. I love flying around and exploring the castle. I also play Switch games. Those tend to last longer than PC/Xbox games. My wife got Animal Crossing last year and burned out after a couple weeks. I still check in on my island a few times a week. It's honestly a lovely game.

[-] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 1 week ago

I don't know what I can tell you.

I'm one of those patient gamers, where I'm just happy I finally have a machine that can play about 89% of the games I have to throw at it. Moreso happier that it can confidently run PS2 emulation, something I've been chasing for years to have a machine that can do, to own anyways.

I think you just need to sit down and contemplate to yourself what you want out of a machine. It's not a good healthy mindset to be fretting about upgrading all of the time. I mean, you made a huge leap already going from 15 years to what you have now.

Also consider that, there will still be games released that look graphically demanding and everything, but will require maybe a 1060 GPU, just as an example. Probably 8GB of RAM. It's only the AAA stuff that wants everything to be tip-top shape. Don't chase those.

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

This is honestly the healthiest take, there are just a lot of games currently out that I want to play but have no way to.

Space Marine 2, KCD2, Stalker 2, etc etc etc

It's just been a good year to be a single player gamer, and I wanna get in on it. 🤷‍♂️

[-] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

The good news is that single-player games tend to age well. Down the line, the bugs are as fixed as they're gonna be. Any expansions are done. Prices may be lower. Mods may have been created. Wikis may have been created. You have a pretty good picture of what the game looks like in its entirety. While there are rare cases that games are no longer available some reason or break on newer OSes with no way to make them run, that's rare.

With (non-local) multiplayer games, one has a lot less flexibility, since once the crowd has moved on, it's moved on.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Not sure what to tell you, but a Mac is the last platform to go to for gaming. Apple has zero interest in gaming and have made the platform virtually hostile to gaming development.

Steam regularly has sales (really good sales, like under $5) for fairly modern games (within the last 10 years).

Wait for a sale on something like an AMD Beelink and use that.

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Like I replied to another comment, the Mac was necessary for work (art and music) and was light years ahead of anything else that can be obtained at its price point ($575).

Thanks for the Beelink rec, though.

[-] MSids@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I also switched my tower out for an M4 mini last year. It surprised me how much I fell in love with it and Mac OS. Retro game corps has a great emulation on Mac video, though I also ended up with a Beelink SER9 that I use exclusively for game streaming. I’m sure there is a substantial cost, but I wish more developers would release for Apple silicon. They’re truly excellent machines.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Wasn't Game Pass like $6/mo on PC not too long ago? Who's paying $20 for this crap? The game selection isn't even that good.

[-] msokiovt@lemmy.today -1 points 1 week ago

Um... you need to sell that Mac and build a computer with DDR4 and maybe a 40 Series NVIDIA GPU (so as to not pay the high prices on both fronts), slap Linux on it (I'd recommend Mint or Pop_OS!), and learn how to set it up for gaming. That's stupid otherwise.

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sorry, but the Mac is for art and music. I make money with it, its non-negotiable.

Please point me to a comparable PC build that can be had for a total price tag of $575, since that's what I shelled out for the Mac.

If you can't, why did you even make this comment?

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

Mac user as well. I have an M2 Pro mini on my desk, and a base M2 MacBook Air.

To be fair, you didn't specify in the OP why you bought the Mac. Their comment is fair, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't like Windows. It's also a bad recommendation: you're not gonna get a good deal on the Mac that would get you a comparative PC. Your best bet would either be a used Switch or a used Xbox Series S, or maybe a PS4 (Xb1 sucks).

That said, you can get a comparable PC for $575, but you won't get $575 for a $575 Mac selling it secondhand. The fallacy with that suggestion is you'll get about 2/3 what you paid at best and that'll put you in a much worse spot. Now you might be able to get a Chinese PC with everything on the chip like the Mac mini is, with 16GB DDR4 and something like an i3 dual core that will do some of the things the Mac will do, but it won't have a Windows license, you'll need to pay for that or get Linux. Still a bad idea if your new Mac works and you're happy with it.

I made my comment entirely based on the picture, which is kinda my bad but I'm leaving it. I read the text after. I blame my autism.

That being said, you didn't buy the Mac for gaming. If you did that's on you. Heroic is good for some Steam games. M2 Pro isn't great for gaming. I suspect you have an M4 base with 16 or 24GB of RAM (doesn't matter in most cases). That's a more capable machine. Still not great. Macs are not gaming machines. GeForce Now is a decent way to go if you have Steam games. You only need to pay the $10/month price to get decent game streaming, but only if the latency is good enough based on your location. If it's not, the $20/month tier isn't going to help. It's just better graphics.

[-] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 1 week ago

OP is using the Mac for music and art, and that's how he makes money. This was a clarification in response to what I said to him.

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