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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Abolish ice, abolish palintir, abolish space x and demilitarize the police. Police should have a bachelor’s degree at minimum.

[-] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Nationalise SpaceX or force it’s sale. Musk aside, it’s holding up American dominance of the space industry.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

the word you’re looking for is NASA. Fund NASA

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This rally cry (to dismantle DHS) sounds exactly like the kind of popular policy position the Democrats always take when they are out of power. Then, when we give them the power to act, they refuse to implement it (usually in service of some nonsense like “mending”, “coalition building”, or “returning to normalcy”).

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, so if voting is still on the menu, we need to vote out the incumbent establishment dems who refuse to remediate these state terror programs.

Schumer and Jeffries won’t even support defunding ICE. Primary these dipshits while you still can New York!

[-] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Installing new politicians in the DNC will change nothing until those Junior members are confirmed to not be a threat to the current power structure they're not given any power that would threaten that power structure

[-] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Bro, you can’t vote your way out of fascism. This is tyranny these are not normal times anymore normal things do not always apply for circumstances the courts the laws they’re not gonna save us. The sooner people realize that the sooner we can collectively do something.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Wealthy Democratic Party donors/leaders need the military in the streets putting down populist uprisings as much as Republican ones do. Often they are the same people.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Absorbed into the FBI and CIA.

[-] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Not even when they get in power.

Dems are already pushing back against people saying 'Abolish ICE'

[-] telllos@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Because, let's face it, democrat and republican are two faces of the same coin.

[-] kablez@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's the same model across the western world. Two party systems dominate because it's the easiest model for the oligarchs to control us with.

[-] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Dismantle the DHS? Whoa there. Lets cool it with the antisemitism

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

DHS?

It's time to dismantle the USA.

Its at this point a failed state and it should just fall apart in 50 independent countries. About half of them (I'll leave it as as exercise to the reader to figure out which ones) will turn into Canada type counties with healthcare

The other will turn into 3rd world banana republics that won't be able to feed their own population while having constant coup'detats going on. After a few decades the world will intervene and install normal functioning democracies in those countries after outlawing religion there.

A woman can dream

[-] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The world will interfere and fix them? Like who? Russia? China? Like everyone else intervened and fixed the middle east?

I hate to break it to you, but the problem isn't the usa.

The problem is the rich.

[-] ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

It’s time to dismantle the US Government, prosecute sex offenders, pedophiles, corrupt politicians and start over.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It’s time to dismantle the US Government

[-] Macallan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

He forgot to say what he would do to the billionaires.

[-] mar10sanch32@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's a war-time consolidation of power that has been irredeemably infiltrated & turned against the country's own residents. It can easily be dismantled l, with power distributed to competing agencies keeping each other in check, like it was for 200 years.

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's time to dismantle the government in general. The government (through ICE) are stifling people's liberties. It's time that the proletariat has a say. Seriously!

[-] lemmylump@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The day I can't vote is the day I take arms.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck Trump, Fuck ICE, Free Palestine!

[-] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats will never dismantle an organization that they gain so much from. Prior to this year, the largest increases in federal funding to ice and the department of Homeland security have come from Democrats. Who else is going to do the record number of deportations for Democrats if it wasn't for ice and Homeland security? And I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone that the one currently running things for Trump was running things for Obama.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's time to dismantle the Democrat party.

[-] FE80@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Shouldn't it be primary season for the mid terms now? Are there any left, or at least progressive, candidates running anywhere?

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's going to start any minute, at least in terms of ads and stunts and attention-seeking social media things. But as we get closer to mid-year we'll see a lot more chaos and carnival stunts, culminating in November when it will be full on "raw dogging a warp jump with no navigator" level of chaos and bullshit to wade through every day.

I don't know who's running, but I know how i'm voting. With a few exceptions, all incumbents must go. Every last rotten piece of ancient, withering meat who hasn't made any attempt at reform or pushback is out on my ballot, and this should be our goddamn ANTHEM.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

If you’re in the US, look for DSA candidates in your area.

https://electoral.dsausa.org/

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Wait what? Kristi Noem ran DHS under Obama? What am I missing?

[-] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And how are we going to do that? By asking politely? Waving more signs? Marches?

Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you want people to vote for us when there isn't a Republican in the White House then we need to push for leaders who

  1. Consistently tell people Republicans are bad people with bad ideas.
  2. Tell people creating ICE and DHS were Republican ideas and they need to be gotten rid of because Republicans have bad ideas.
  3. Tell people things were better back in the 90s before ICE existed because we didn't let Republicans' bad ideas ruin everything and we could just go back to what we were doing then.
  4. Publicly disown anyone who tries to campaign with Republicans or says anything positive about them.

Deviating from those things only loses us votes.

e; deleted something that was needlessly proactive

[-] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago

Are you like 12 years old or something?

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

There are some economic strategies too, but they would involve varying levels of self-inflicted pain. They also need significant coordination to be effective.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

Read: There's no peaceful solution. Fascism in America has already reached critical mass. Start organizing before it's too late.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago
[-] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

Well, then please teach me how to talk like a winner. Seriously.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I can’t, but you could take this opportunity to stop posting quitter comments online. Just go away if you can’t help

And if “WE’RE FUCKED NO MATTER WHAT WE DO” is all you have to say, you have nothing to say

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social -1 points 2 weeks ago

That's literally what you're saying.

Try providing actual plans.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

I’m saying there’s no value in adding doomer loser noise to the signal.

Adding a positive is positive, reducing a negative is also a positive. I’m reducing a negative by asking these helpless bleating losers to be less unhelpful and vocal.

I’m happy and open to having a positive and constructive conversation, but they don’t start with rude challenges

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social -1 points 2 weeks ago

Still not providing an actual plan.

When you get one, post it.

And I consider phrases like 'doomer loser' pretty rude.

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