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[-] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 32 points 1 year ago

Honestly, that title made me throw up in my mouth a little and the article made it worse.

Not everything needs to be moderated and fear mongering because terrorists are supposedly using certain social media doesn't help that much either.

If criminals can't use a certain platform due to moderation they can simply hop to some other platform.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

This post is nothing more than "think of the children".

Rationalization for silencing people that OP disagrees with. Just call them "terrorists" and now it's moral.

OP would've been a member of the Blue Police.

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[-] PlexSheep@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

Criminals use the www! It's time for moderation to get serious.

It does not work like this. At least, it should not.

[-] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 15 points 1 year ago

Why can't we just better educate people on how to avoid online scams. Oh wait that wouldn't give the government an excuse to legislate another part of our lives into oblivion.

And it's funny how suddenly we are having all these terrorist problems it's like something else is causing it, but once again solving it probably doesn't benefit the government.

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[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Moderation by who exactly?

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[-] bloopernova@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago

Where is telegram hosted/managed?

Honestly I doubt even delisting from the play/app stores will stop people from using it, at least on Android.

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[-] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

Please send me all the private messages of your phone so that I can moderate them. You're not a hypocrite, aren't you?

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[-] ram@bookwormstory.social 7 points 1 year ago

It's always from kbin.social, eh

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Yep, I noticed too and I want to understand why ?

[-] Hegar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

What is? I don't get what's going on here

[-] ram@bookwormstory.social 6 points 1 year ago

The fool who's rampaging around in the thread here, who also happens to be OP

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[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

OP said something I disagree with, therefore all of kbin must be like him!

How childish. I don't see anyone assuming lemmy users are all tankies because they visited lemmygrad once.

[-] ram@bookwormstory.social 2 points 1 year ago

Ah cool another kbin.social person lmao

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Facebook is a CP paradise because of the way private groups are set up. Been a problem for years. Even with all the moderation. What do you expect the moderation will do in this instance?

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Facebook should be better at moderation. I'm not familiar with the Child Porn myself, but I think this is a problem with moderation that relies on reporting versus somewhat more proactive moderation, such as automatically scanning content (with human review).

I expect the moderation to frustrate the efforts of scammers, extremists, and terrorists so that scams are no longer profitable and so that they can no longer spread hate and terror as effectively.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Scams will always be profitable. The difference between scamming someone in real life and scamming them via the internet isn't all the much different.

Scammers use phone calls to scam people too. Are you suggesting we tap and monitor everyone's phones for keywords?

The thing about privacy is that you seem to be willing to let people or organisations (that we can't prove have our best interest at heart) violate people's privacy in order to get the result you want. And there's no proof that you will get that result.

Meanwhile someone who's human has to make the determination that something is criminal or something is CP and that means we have to pay people to comb through all that data.

That's very taxing on the individuals involved. It does harm to them.

Now I'm sure you'll say something about expectation of privacy when submitting anything to the web. But people do have the expectation of privacy online. Take a look at people who are deliberately de-googling or up in arms about web sites collecting their data to target them with ads.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Shitty medium crap is worse than telegram

[-] kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The only time I see medium is links to blog type stuff.

I've seen telegram spam all across the internet, the list of platforms I haven't seen telegram spam on is basically the list of dead ones.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Medium is just a joke because it's only people blabbering shit. It's just extra long tweets.

Not that comments on lemmy are any better, but they don't require linking to an external source for unsourced opinion pieces.

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[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

The only time I see medium is links to blog type stuff.

I'm so confused, what else do people expect to see on Medium, ads for sugary breakfast cereal?

[-] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Large popups that prevent me from reading the content

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[-] decodehug647@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

Sounds right, I'd kike to know why this has been downvoted so much.

[-] yip-bonk@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Totally agree that huge social media systems need to be understood as disproportionately affecting misinformation. I don't know anything about Telegram, though.

Are the pushback people fReEzE PeAChErs or something? Is Telegram just lovely? Dunno.

[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm part of a few Telegram channels full of highly progressive IRL friends and colleagues. I also know Telegram is full of channels dedicated to crypto shilling, liveleak-esque video and imagery, piracy chats, privacy chats, QAnon forums, etc etc. I used it to communicate with family when I was out of the country and didn't want to pay for roaming charges.

Telegram itself is just a piece of software. Telegram's community is wide and varied. Does it need moderation? Yeah probably. Who should be doing the moderating, not just of individual channels but of all the channels? Eh, I don't have a good answer to that.

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