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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by squaresinger@lemmy.world to c/retrogaming@lemmy.world

This is not meant as an attack in any way, anyone can obvously buy whatever makes them happy.

I'm just really curious who buys consoles that aren't that old for such high prices.

I can see the appeal of holding childhood consoles in your hands again, and I can also see the appeal in collecting cool really old stuff. But I struggle to understand why someone would buy e.g. a New 2DS XL for €300 or more.

So just out of curiosity, if you are someone like that, what's the appeal that makes it worth spending so much money, instead of e.g. just going with a steam deck and an emulator instead?

Edit to avoid confusion: I am not talking about new reproduction systems (like the N64 Mini) or premium emulation/FPGA systems (like the Analogue Pocket or the MISTer), but about original game consoles that aren't supported any more but also aren't really old. Something like the DS/3DS, PSP, Wii U, Playstation 3. Some of them are now more expensive in mediocre second-hand condition than they were when they were new.

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[-] theyllneverfindmehere@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I bought the new N64,the Anologue 64 because I still have all my old N64 games and they have just been sitting on a shelf or in a container. I was planning on modding my N64 to add an upscaler, HDMI support and USBC PD, but then I saw the A64 and said Merry Christmas to me.

I'm playing Perfect Dark again and am so happy. Did you know you could use 2 controllers to have two movement control sticks!? The game also supports 16:9 and has "high res" option. It looks and plays amazing still.

[-] Denjin@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The high res option just tanked your fps from 24 to around 12 if I remember correctly. Does it still run at a decent clip on the A64?

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago

Expensive is relative to income. 300eur is not much money for some. Also, 300eur is cheaper than a steam deck...

Buying a complete product means you don't have to mess around with emulators not working quite right, and if it doesn't work, you can just return it. Those two alone are pretty good reasons to get the prebuilt machine.

[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

When it comes to old handhelds, do you replace the batteries? At one point in time I had a PSP battery swell up like a balloon, scary.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Depends on the handheld, but most of the older handhelds have easily replaceable batteries.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Retro consoles aren't my thing, but i have replaced batteries for all kinds of devices, and it's usually fairly easy to do. Aliexpress et al. have all the batteries you could want, and a little fiddling with some screw drivers and you cam usually get the job done. Fairly safe with some basic common sense as well.

[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago

I really need to replace my 3DS XL battery...

...and PS3 controllers actually. Another fire hazard I've ignored lol.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Nintendo+3DS+XL+Battery+Replacement/25068 - Looks easy, barely needs a guide.

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/DualShock+3+Battery+Replacement/3255 - Definitely doable, although I will say that you should be careful with game controllers, they are often full of springs that will escape and be a complete pain to find and reinstall.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Chinese knockoff replacement batteries are always sketchy as hell. Often lying outright about battery specs, and theres always the potential for them to go full samsung.

years ago, ifixit claimed to test their replacement batteries for quality and safety, i dont know if thats still true.. but if you're gonna get a replacement psp battery, I'd get it from there before anywhere else, even if its marginally more expensive.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Buying a complete product means you don’t have to mess around with emulators not working quite right, and if it doesn’t work, you can just return it.

Can you return second-hand consoles?

Expensive is relative to income. 300eur is not much money for some. Also, 300eur is cheaper than a steam deck…

True, but I mostly meant relative to other devices you could use instead. The cheapest option would probably to get a phone-attachment controller for maybe €50-100 and connect that to the phone you already have.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

Okay, I see we have some confusion, when you said "new retro", I was thinking of the N64 raspi thing that came out last year. Those did have a manufacturer warranty.

In terms of second hand consoles, yes, no warranty, but, it's still not messing around with emulators, it should play the games largely as expected.

Phone attached controller might be cheaper, but surely you can see that its a significantly worse experience than a properly built console?

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Phone attached controller might be cheaper, but surely you can see that its a significantly worse experience than a properly built console?

I do have some of my old consoles still, specifically a Gameboy Color and a New 3DS XL. I also have a Razr Kishi v2 smartphone controller.

The Kishi+phone easily beats the original GBC in every metric except of nostalgia. When it comes to the 3DS, it's slightly more mixed, since I can't use the Kishi in portrait mode, so emulating both screens on top of each other is difficult.

I did try another controller in vertical mode (can't remember what it was called, a friend of mine let me try it) and there the experience was actually better on the emulator than on the real device, except of the missing 3D graphics. But other than that, performance was better on the emulator (especially Pokemon games struggle on OG hardware), the screen was much better.

Might be a bit more mixed for games that require precise touch input, but none of the games I played actually need that.

Especially now that online play has been discontinued on the 3DS, emulators aren't that far behind.

And the biggest advantage: saving a few hundred Euros for the controller compared to the original hardware.

But that's of course only my view, and that's why I was asking for other people's experiences, because I want to understandtand their reasoning.

In terms of second hand consoles, yes, no warranty, but, it’s still not messing around with emulators, it should play the games largely as expected.

Ease of use? Yeah, I guess that's fair, especially if you aren't hacked. Once you hack the console, it's just as much hassle as dialing in an emulator...

[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

In general playing games on original hardware is going to be a better experience than running it in an emulator.

Especially in the 3DS family of systems, where so much unique hardware stuff is part of the experience. In an emulator you’re going to miss out on the dual screen, 3D effect, and stylus touch screen.

That’s not even getting into emulator issues with things like slow down, sound issues, or inaccuracies in rendering.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

In general playing games on original hardware is going to be a better experience than running it in an emulator.

Tbh, I think that depends. On the 3DS it does make more sense, you are right, especially if you want the 3D effect. That one is really not replicable.

On a New 2DS XL without the 3D effect, I don't know... Most games I played don't really use the touch screen a lot (though that obviously depends on the games) and a phone with a portrait-mode controller can replicate the dual-screen quite well.

But yeah, everyone has their own preferences.

[-] sisyphus@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago

I second this -- SNES and Gameboy/GBA games run perfectly on emulators in my experience. Those are the platforms that I play. I'd imagine that Genesis and N64 are similar.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

These old consoles are 100% better on emulators with stuff like fast forward, save states, upscaling and in the case of the mobile ones, decent screens.

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

For DS/2DS/3DS specifically, there is no emulation hardware that has resistive touchscreen, which I think is superior to capacitive for many games. For 3DS, the same thing applies to the 3D capabilities. Additionally, I'm under the impression that 3DS emulation isn't fully reliable for the full library, but I may be out of date.

TLDR; emulation may not be as feature complete or as quality as original hardware.

[-] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

To the everyday person a Steam Deck and emulation are very niche so they buy what they know.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I guess my MiSTer setup could count as a crazy expensive new retro setup

I went for it because I just want to play the games, as hardware accurately if possible, in a small footprint with HDMI scaling & wireless controllers as an option.

I've got a few older consoles, but frankly since I got the MiSTer it's nice to not have to mess with getting the old hardware set up in order to just play a game, and I've not gotten around to doing HDMI mods on any of them yet.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Sorry, that was a bit of a misunderstanding. A MISTer makes sense to me. I was talking about newer original retro consoles. Something like a DS/3DS, PSP, Wii, Wii U, PS3. These things are now often more expensive in mediocre second-hand condition than they were new back when they were new, and that's what I don't really understand.

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can't you just run your existing retro consoles if you still have them, through an upscaler such as an OSSC, RetroTink or derivatives, or a FrameMeister, though?

Also, the XB360 and PS3 are new enough that they can just interface through HDMI like any other modern AV component. In addition, XB360 emulation sucks right now, and PS3 emulation while better than XB360 emulation, isn't all there either vs. running original hardware.

[-] cdzero@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

If you already have games it becomes an easier argument. Not always. I still have some 3DS games that I never got rid of when I got rid of the console, I would like another console but the prices...

That being said if my PS2 or 3 die, I'm replacing.

[-] rami@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago

PS2 and ps3 games can be reliable emulated these days. No sense in giving Sony more money.

I feel like most used consoles aren't as crazy in price, as you're making them out to be, but that may be dependent on your market. I've picked up a bunch of consoles over the last few years, both home consoles and handhelds, for the purpose of modifying them. I've found that I like to play on original hardware, but the physical games are so absurdly overpriced at this point, I've either converted them to run optical drive emulators or bought flash carts. I can boot up the consoles, select the game I want to play, and go. Its a cool way to modernize the consoles I grew up with, while overall getting the same original experience.

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