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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

I used to be a gun salesman at a huge destination store. I remember us selling hundreds of guns a day when Clinton was running for President. I'm also a leftist, which was very unusual for a gun salesman.

One time, we had a trans woman come in, and some of the other salesmen started snickering, but I went right up to her. We started talking about what she was looking for, and it turned out she was pretty knowledgeable, as she'd served in the Marines pre-transition. She was looking for a target pistol, and I found a used CZ-75 Shadow in the back and she was super happy with it. We were talking during the background check and checkout process, and she opened up that people had treated her like an outcast at the range and at her church, and I told her about a place I would shoot that was less-Republican, and I even talked to her about the university church I used to work for that had trans people on staff and hosted the annual transgender day of remembrance and told her that there were kind people out there.

Some of the other sales guys spent the whole time snickering, but I didn't care. My managers were thrilled because I was selling to someone that everyone else was ignoring.

The next week she came in with a few trans friends. They were looking for me because they were interested in getting into shooting but didn't want to feel judged. There were a few "Chilie's got some more girlfriends" jokes, but I sold a few more guns.l to people who would end up getting more into the hobby.

Over time, more and more queer people would come in, but I wasn't always there, or I'd be with another customer, so the other salespeople would end up having to help them, and it started to click that they were just people. Eventually, I got promoted away from the department, and I eventually left the store for a real career, but I got to watch the store become a kind of destination shop for queer folk looking for guns. And more remarkably, I saw some pretty hard-core right wing people open their minds a bit.

I'm not going to claim miracles, but the department probably went from 90% anti-trans to like 40%, which isn't amazing, but is a huge improvement. I'm still a little proud that I was able to help start that trend, and I still have left-leaning friends ask me gun advice, or ask me to teach them and their kids about firearm safety even if they hate guns.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

that's not the way I expected that to go

thank you for sharing. genuinely

I fucking love you. Keep up the good work. Check in on your neighbors, organize if you can.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 4 points 3 weeks ago

At this point, if your state reps are still driven to make more gun laws, they’re not helping. They are ensuring that maga is grandfathered in to gun ownership while the people looking to become gun owners this year are pushed back.

All modern gun control came from a fear of the Black Panthers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

Reagan started fucking us over well before he became president.

[-] pxlkttn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

Expense aside I couldn't trust having one so easily accessible to me with what these monsters have done to my mental health.

[-] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you're currently versed in Firearms and are able to start a chapter, or if you are lucky enough to live in an area with a local chapter the SRA is a good organization. However they are apparently fractured and their politics may not align. https://socialistra.org/

Thanks to @supramario@lemmy.world https://www.blazingsword.org/ is better for LGBTQ+ anarchists that tend to not get along with Tankies.

A more decentralized option could be a John Brown Gun Club https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/john-brown-gun-club thanks to @sine_fine_belli@lemmy.world for reminding me.

Good basis of organized tactics. The guide below is more about organized movement than direct fire. Below will NOT help you in a firefight as it relies on a much larger trained force than you are likely to have. Good to know what the bastards study though. https://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/TBS/B2F2837%20Rifle%20Squad%20Tactics.pdf?ver=2015-05-27-100939-710

How to avoid getting balled up and kettled.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anarch-ish-how-to-win-at-kettling-a-guide-for-non-policemen

Sabotage guide from WW2
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26184.txt.utf-8

General armed defense
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/organizing-armed-defense-in-america

How to organize a rapid response from a very high level with further detailed resources.
https://southerncoalition.org/resources/rapid-response-101/

Good general advice on organizing, also a good resource to find groups near you that are likely aligned. https://www.fiftyfifty.one/organizer-resources

Feel free to reach out for any other resources.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

https://www.blazingsword.org/ is better for LGBTQ+

SRA unfortunately has a ton of tankies...

[-] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I’ll also recommend the John brown gun club

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Do tell how the SRA is "tankie".

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

You're joking right? The subreddit is heavily tankie and the forums before they took them offline where also tankie. I'm sure there are some people who aren't like that, that are members of the SRA, but the majority is super tankie. Just look at their mission statement, it's even got anti-capitalist as part of their mission.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, why would I be joking? What's the joke? Seriously, can we dive into this? What about my comment made you think I was trying to be funny?

subreddit

forum

You're basing your opinion of a leftist org entirely on your personal internet experiences. Basing your opinion of an organization on internet experience vibes is not wise.

Just look at their mission statement, it's even got anti-capitalist as part of their mission.

If you think being anti capitalist is synonymous with being a tankie, then you've done a better job discrediting yourself than I ever could have.

The SRA takes great pains to communicate the idea that they are a broad coalition of queen folks, people of color, anarchists, marxists, maoists, marxist-leninists, etc... united in the belief of anti capitalism. Their whole shtick is that any and all leftists can join united under the idea of learning about guns - regardless of individual philosophy. The fact that youre lobbing around the word "tankie" at zero hour of the fascist descent, in combination with equating "tankie" with anticapitalism, in combination with spewing FUD about one of the most successful and inclusive leftists gun rights orgs, makes it pretty clear that youre just one of the typical radlibs who aren't ready to commit to reckoning with the United States' burgeoning fascism.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

At some point it just becomes "try to only point your security blanket at yourself, I guess" levels of helplessness.

But to anyone considering buying a gun:

Owing a firearm makes you (as of 2020) 8-35x more likely to kill yourself with it https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/06/handgun-ownership-associated-with-much-higher-suicide-risk.html. And considering this is a purchase during a... let's just say "immensely stressful" period... yeah.

But also... what purpose does it serve? A single ice nazi comes knocking on your door, you spot them through the peephole, and have time to grab your gun, load it, and fire through the door? Then... you flee Everything in the hopes that the cops don't decide to label you a "cop killer" on top of that?

This is why gun nuts make their entire lives built around "systems" to always carry a gun and be able to quick draw. Because the reality is... whoever shoots somewhat accurately first probably "wins". Which leads to "Well... maybe that phone in their pocket they weren't even reaching for is a gun. I am legally justified"

But that also basically works for only the first few people to try it. Everyone else gets a squad of ice nazis either kicking down the door and flashbanging them (and themselves) or just unloading on the house from the curb.

I realize the world is scary. I am scared shitless more often than not. But think through what buying a gun can even accomplish versus all the risks.

Because "If I can't protect myself, who will" is a very valid question... but... the sad reality is that none of us (alone) can protect ourselves. This is WHY republicans and the like are so pro-gun. They know that a "well armed militia" hasn't been able to do shit for decades.

And maybe consider reaching out to your local community organizers to figure out what CAN be accomplished.

[-] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Next you are going to tell us that buying a firearm with threaded barrel is a scary feature and should be banned like WA state has already done.

[-] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Then kindly stay out of the way of those that do carry.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not to diminish your comment, but this research is tautologically flawed:

Men who owned handguns were eight times more likely than men who didn't to die of self-inflicted gunshot wounds. Women who owned handguns were more than 35 times more likely than women who didn't to kill themselves with a gun

I mean… obviously? I bet sailors get bit by sharks more than Great Plains farmers. This is the wrong denominator — they should be looking at all cause mortality and all types of suicide in gun owners vs others.

I definitely do believe owning a gun would have a higher suicide rate by making it more convenient to use the gun in a moment of weakness/impulse. 

That article brutalizes the original research for a scarier popping headline.

From the actual paper, the important bit:

Rates of suicide by any method were higher among handgun owners, with an adjusted hazard ratio of 3.34 for all male owners as compared with male nonowners (95% confidence interval [CI], 3.13 to 3.56) and 7.16 for female owners as compared with female nonowners (95% CI, 6.22 to 8.24).

 Handgun owners did not have higher rates of suicide by other methods or higher all-cause mortality. The risk of suicide by firearm among handgun owners peaked immediately after the first acquisition, but 52% of all suicides by firearm among handgun owners occurred more than 1 year after acquisition.

This is the interesting bit for me. If you remove people buying a gun for purpose of suicide, all cause mortality is the same, which indicates that purchase of a gun for suicide is a relatively small proportion of all gun owners.

Also important to note: this type of statistic does not differentiate no difference from not enough data to say there’s a difference, which is important. P value/frequentist statistics cannot say no effect, ever.

[-] lowside@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

A firearm is not a good solution to anything. It's a tool of last resort. If i believe I, or some one I love is going to die. At that point, i don't care if i can beat the military, or if im labeled a cop killer because the alternative is Im dead. This isn't about being a hero, this isn't about saving my neighborhood or my country, this isn't about beating the military. Owning and carrying a firearm is about giving yourself one last option when all else fails. When you know you will die without it, may as well have the chance to do something.

Firearms also work as a deterrent. They are a show of force. Without it, the government has a monopoly on violence. Cops, ICE, the military, whoever. When they are they only ones with the ability to do that, we will always be under their thumb.

I'm not saying we should be resorting to violence unless there is absolutely no other choice. The very last thing i want is a shootout or fight with any government agency. I will not win that fight. But I would rather die standing and fighting then die on my knees.

I strongly believe that it is everyone's responsibility to do their best to protect themselves and those they love. Go exercise. Go learn martial arts. go learn how to shoot. Not because you plan to use violence, but so when violence is used on you, you are not helpless.

I'm not going to point out the flaws in your statistics. Someone else already did that.

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago

All the power to them but it's a bit late to "prepare" for it.

[-] dwemthy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] kiterios@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Also, the article is a year old. So I guess the second best time to prepare was then. Now is third.

[-] dwemthy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Xeno's best time to prepare: the nth best time to prepare is halfway between the (n-1) best time to prepare and now

But then we will never be prepared, we'll only know the best time in which we could have started.

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