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[-] nullroot@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Oh yeah that was the post that made me block their meme community 🤣

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 8 points 16 hours ago

Imagine unironically posting these comments in communities that notoriously ban people for wrong-think.

Shit like this really makes me question if they can genuinely be this stupid.

[-] goat@reddthat.com 5 points 9 hours ago

i'd like to tout that this community rarely bans users and has one of the fairest and most lenient ban conditions. we encourage tankies to come and engage

but tankies like to say they get banned for 'wrongthink' since it's easier to lie than admit you can't handle people criticising your otherwise asinine positions.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

They are in denial

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Pretty incredible crashout from people who are terrified that their pro-genocide devs might not exercise complete control anymore, lmao

My favorite is all these twats before saying "IF YOU DON'T LIKE LEMMY CREATE AN ALTERNATIVE" when people pointed out that the Lemmy devs were pro-genocide and enforced pro-genocide views on their flagship instance, and now that there's an alternative, they have total meltdowns about persecution, lmao.

But no one ever said fascist bootlickers were particularly bright, or, for that matter, stable. If they were, one imagines they wouldn't tie up their identity so tightly with genocide denial.

[-] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 13 points 20 hours ago

They just don't like that they can't control the narrative on Piefed and that Lemmy's developers are so busy banning people for dissent that they don't spend enough time developing their platform, leading to Piefed surpassing it in features and quality.

[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 12 points 20 hours ago

I read about most of the shit the tankies on ml say it's censorship. Many of them are just common sense stuff. And the fact that you are flagged for commenting "this" or that you're commenting with a GIF from Tenor - those two things are pretty low effort and I think the answer to it is a proper one (no, it's not actually a thing about GIFs, it's about low effort comments. You can upload your own GIF elsewhere and use it).

Also, it's funny how they have nothing against China using a social credit system, but when Piefed uses it IT'S HELL ON EARTH!!!

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 19 hours ago

"China doesn't have a social credit system, and if they did it would be based; but these WESTOID KRAKKKER IMPERIALISTS are operating a SECRET POLICE by having admin access to reputation scores for an online forum 😭"

[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 points 19 hours ago

Have admins able to access to all your data on that server - ✅ OK
Have admins able to see a reliable score of all your nonsense without beating their heads around with eating your shit - ❌ THIS IS LITERALLY THOUGHT POLICE; THEY'LL SEND AGENTS TO YOUR DOOR IF YOU POST A GIF FROM TENOR AND THEY'LL TAKE YOU TO THE (NONEXISTING) GULAGS OR SOME SHIT. HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!

[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 7 points 19 hours ago

USAID which is a CIA cutout

This claim is literally standing shoulder to shoulder with known Hitler-worshipper Elon Musk's attacks on USAID last year. The only group that can out-conspiracy theory Hexbear and Grad is Qanon at this point.

[-] goat@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It's very curious how all extremists end up with the same talking points and views. The antisemitism from tankies is almost identical to neo-nazis, even posting and sharing the same conspiracy theories.

[-] maam@feddit.uk 9 points 20 hours ago

That thread is a mess only good point that was made is that the spoiler effect is baked into first-past-the-post to minimize democracy. The elites want us stuck with only 2 choices on the ballot.

More people need to educate themselves on electoral systems since those in power want us to accept an inferior system till the end of time. But that’s too much thinking for Tankies, gotta burn down society for the accelerationism bs that just gets people killed and progress stalled for ages.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 6 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, FPTP has to go. At least a few of our problems will leave entirely with that shitty and outdated form of voting rule, even if most problems remain.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

Is the "globally tracks your score" part true? That would be a huge negative for me. I found myself self-censoring on Reddit, and I hated it when people deleted or edit their comments to preserve their karma.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 19 hours ago

Is the “globally tracks your score” part true?

As I understand it, it lets the instance admin display if it drops below a certain level, as a suggestion a user needs a deeper look.

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I don't think users can see the actual number/karma equivalent by any means.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

Interesting, I'm not sure how I feel about it. On Reddit it encouraged people to post groupthink fluff so they could be allowed onto their desired subreddit. The bots were great at that, and we got a "dead internet" website.

I suppose we've got other stuff going for us like bans being local and bots being scorned. And I have to admit that mod/admin effort isn't free. Do you think the low karma warnings could potentially be a slippery slope to something worse?

[-] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 4 points 12 hours ago

It's understandable to feel that way, but imo this is about basic internet etiquette rather than censorship. If I went to .ml and wrote a few sensible comments there I would quickly get a bad rep. It's not perfect but it's a far cry from censorship as well.

[-] doben@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 hours ago

Doesn‘t matter what it‘s supposed to be, the relevant factor is what it does in reality.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

i agree, there shouldn't be any upvotes, downvotes or reputation system at all.

[-] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I mean if we had piefed without a karma/reputation system we would get a true level playing field, reduced performative posting, more raw feedback and less censoring.

but on the other hand there would be too much noise, spam and bot flooding (since no reputation/karma), lack of trust and accountability.

Xitter for example has no rep system yet people still find a way to judge the quality of a post using the Ratio method (likes vs comments)

I like the principle of reddit and piefed expands on that and tries to come in with "common sense tools"

I think it's really up to you to decide what is important.

Do you want a place for raw, unfiltered, diverse and equal expression? (à la Twitter) which comes with its set of negatives. Or a place that is organized, high-quality and "trustworthy" and its own set of negatives

I personnaly prefer an organized place but that's just my opinion.

Edit: should have used Mastodon as an example instead of Twitter

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 6 points 18 hours ago

Reddit records positive karma though, which is different.

Also Reddit or Reddit communities (not sure) can literally throttle the activity of users who are heavily downvoted within a specific subreddit. Some subs also instant block anyone with -100 Karma. Unfortunately though, when you do encounter an account like that... it's very obviously why they are like that. People can get unfairly hit by arguing in the wrong communities but 9 times out of 10, a -100 karma account (it caps at that on Reddit) has been trolling, looking for fights, spamming etc.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 18 hours ago

I suppose it would depend on where the score limit is. Any admin tool can be abused by a sufficiently determined admin, of course, but I think as long as the low-reputation limit is something along the lines of "This person is consistently averaging a distinctly negative score", it's probably fine. You'd really have to be overwhelmingly commenting on controversial issues with nothing but controversial takes in order to average that with good faith posting.

Mostly it's the "MY BIG NUMBER" attitude that I think should be avoided, and since users can't see their reputation, that's probably not going to be a problem.

[-] doben@lemmy.wtf -3 points 11 hours ago

My reputation is so low, because I critically engage in this community from time to time and people don‘t like it.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

calling random people nazis and fascists for not liking tankies isn't critical engagement

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago

Using Ukraine to overexploit their resources and as a battleground to weaken Russia. Using Venezuela to overexploit their resources and to weaken resource-access for China. Using Israel as an unsinkable aircraft carrier in West Asia towards China. Using Taiwan as an unsinkable aircraft carrier in South-East Asia directly off the coast of China.

this the critical thinking you talk about?

Or do you mean critically engage against people's opinion even when yours seems to be the same line of thinking the tankie employ? Because you give the vibe that the only country you adore and care about is Russia and China, to which the system used by piefed is really useful for people to not engage any of your comment.

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Gonna have to disagree with you on this one.

Much though one might criticize the lemmy devs for their politics, at least they keep it to their instance. They don't bake it into the software.

And that's very much as opposed to rimu, whose opinions are at the heart of Piefed and forced into virtually everything the software does from the moment you sign up for a piefed instance, from the preset subscriptions to the reputation tags and default hiding of downvoted content to the list of prohibited sources and banned domains.

All you have to do to avoid Dessalines and Nutonic's opinions is to avoid their instance and federated ones. But it's impossible to use Piefed and avoid rimu's opinions, because they're baked into the software.

Wait, which platform was it again that used to have a hard-coded slur list that could not be modified by instance admins but only by modifying the relevant section of code, and had the main dev throw a temper tantrum when people suggested otherwise? I forgot...

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 8 points 23 hours ago

And that’s very much as opposed to rimu, whose opinions are at the heart of Piefed and forced into virtually everything the software does from the moment you sign up for a piefed instance...

All you have to do to avoid Dessalines and Nutonic’s opinions is to avoid their instance and federated ones. But it’s impossible to use Piefed and avoid rimu’s opinions, because they’re baked into the software.

This has been refuted time and time again by people literally running Piefed instances.

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