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[-] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago

The very worst offender is Nissan. The Japanese car manufacturer admits in their privacy policy to collecting a wide range of information, including sexual activity, health diagnosis data, and genetic data — but doesn’t specify how. They say they can share and sell consumers’ “preferences, characteristics, psychological trends, predispositions, behavior, attitudes, intelligence, abilities, and aptitudes” to data brokers, law enforcement, and other third parties.

What the actual fuck

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

a wide range of information, including sexual activity,

404 :(

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

iirc this got removed shortly after it got attention

[-] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

and not before it was produced? press x to doubt they actually removed it... If there's no independent research and we can't have the CEO's own data, then take it with a big grain of salt

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm not sure what you mean, but I meant you could no longer find the bit about collecting sex related data on the nissan site after mozilla made that article. I read some of them before and I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure I read that section, but when I shared the article with people it was gone from the car maker site by then.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

They’re saying that corps barely give a shit about the law and will continue doing the thing, only they will stop telling people they are doing it. Then when they get caught for doing still doing it they will say ‘oh no we are so sorry’ and pay the meaninglessly small fine attached to it. And then still continue to do the thing.

[-] sep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If you have the url. Have you looked for it on the wayback internet archive?

[-] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

Turns out this article is from 2023, but here you go - search the page for "sexual activity" and you'll find it

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

Subaru states that by being a passenger, you are considered a user — and by being a user, you have consented to their privacy policy. Several car brands also note that it is a driver’s responsibility to tell passengers about the vehicle's privacy policies.

No way that holds up in court. But in what situation would that appear in court unless someone has money to burn?

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This kind of shit is what makes me not want an EV, that and I guess the ease of repair but that could change with proper regulation and resources. I'm all for EVs but my current relatively effecient ICE car doesn't spy on me and that's important as well.

[-] Steve@communick.news 0 points 1 week ago

It's got nothing to do with EVs.
It's all cars made in the last 6-8 years.

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It sort of has something to do with EVs, in that it's hard to find EVs made before this was standard, so if you're looking for cars without it it's hard to find one that doesn't have an ICE engine.

(Where cars aren't avoidable, I do prefer they be electric, as, I'm sure, do many, but the privacy concerns are apparently very real.)

(Edit: hydrogen cars are indeed very neat and more environmentally friendly than electric cars, and in the most ideal scenario what unavoidable car/truck/van usage there was would be hydrogen-powered. It is not AFAIK practical for the average consumer at this time and requires substantial infrastructure updates which the individual consumer can't really do much about beyond lobbying reps, so when it comes down to an individual who does need a car weighing what kind of vehicle to buy, I think it is fair to say that electric cars are better than ICE for the environment but, due to being newer, have more privacy concerns than old ICE vehicles. Neither is as good on either criterion as being able to just go car-free, of course.)

[-] FEIN@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

everytime WE get into a car with our friends we ALWAYS read the privacy policy aloud to them right guys

[-] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

This is why if you buy a car, you should get a "dumb" car.

[-] dusty_raven@discuss.online 0 points 1 week ago

Serious question, what is the best solution to this? My household has three cars, the newest is from 2008. It makes me nervous as to what to do if I wanted a "new" car (I'd never buy an actual new car, just new to me and made in the last ten years).

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

We need to find a way to cripple cars' connectivity.

[-] ProjectPatatoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Check for a "telematics unit" Removed one recently for a 2016 Subaru Forrester because it was draining the battery.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I hate the world we’re building.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

I hate the world they’re forcing us to consent to live in.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Then revoke your consent insofar as you are able

They're not even forcing us to consent. They're forcing us without our consent and then claiming we consented by not having any other choice.

[-] liffeyman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

got to love GDPR

[-] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

i wonder if snipping off your car's modem completely stops the flow of data. like sure, your car's CPU is still gathering that data but they have no way to retrieve it. unless you visit a dealership or authorized mechanic shop?

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

Why don't they review any open source cars?

[-] SillyMe@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago

what open source cars are available?

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] ebolapie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That's not a car, that's a moon buggy. A very cool moon buggy, but there is zero chance my mom would DD that vehicle.

[-] mrnobody@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago

What if:

My car doesn't have a cellular connection? Does it still spy?

I have SatNav, but it doesn't have a hotspot/wifi/cell, does it so collect data somehow? I'm guessing somehow over GPS/sat maybe?

[-] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some cars used 3G cellular connections, which is no longer active in most countries.

The only countries with active networks are Croatia, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Slovenia, and South Korea.

Via: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G#Phase-out

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's even trickier with EVs.

On the one hand you can charge your EV at home and no one knows about it.

On the other, you can't pay for a public charger with cash, there's always a trail. Cars have unique identifiers that are communicated to the charger when connected. Each time you charge in public they know exactly who are you and what car it is.

[-] Venat0r@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

same is true when you fill up at a gas station...

[-] Ghostie@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ah yes the car I use to put myself into public is not private.

[-] Sakurai@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago

There’s more than enough spying capability on most smartphones. I’m not worried about my car at all.

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