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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Until we find a way to objectively determine education so that it's not corrupted by perverse incentives, democracy is better than anything else. Yes democracy is perverted from propaganda, but say something like monarchy can easily get an uneducated (or worse) monarch, and then there's nothing you can do.

Socrates (and other philosophers like him) were basically promoting aristocracy. The answer is to dismantle things providing the perverse incentives, namely, capitalism itself.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Socrates and ~~Aristotle~~ Plato also believed rule should be imposed by philospher-kings. They believed in rule by merit, a core right-wing philosophy. The difference between them and modern right-wingers is that the modern ones believe wealth is an indicator of merit.

Edit - Offended two dead philosophers by mixing them up with their rival.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Eh, Artistotle was Plato's student. They're not that different. Aristotle was a complete aristocracy simp.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

I said in another post that I'm less familiar with Aristotle, but I thought that was the main divide between them, and was under the impression that Aristotle took the whole "I'm going to make own school" approach to their disagreements. Whereas Plato believed in the rule of the supposed phiosopher-king, Aristotle argued for the value of a more open democracy.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Aristotle was also the tutor to Alexander the great, who extinguished democracy in Greece forever

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