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Parents and teachers who oppose the state policies sued, claiming their parental, free speech and religious rights were violated.

The Supreme Court on Monday barred California from enforcing state rules that restrict when schools can notify parents about students who come out as transgender and requires teachers to use children's preferred pronouns.

The court, on a 6-3 vote on ideological lines, allowed a federal judge’s ruling in favor of parents who oppose the policy on religious grounds to go into effect. The San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals had put the judge’s decision on hold pending further litigation.

The court's ruling focused on the parents' claim that their rights under the free exercise clause of the Constitution's First Amendment were violated. The court also said they have valid parental rights claims under the Constitution's 14th Amendment.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

...Parental, free speech and religious rights to do what?

to ignore the privacy rights, free speech rights and religious rights of their child.

[-] nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago

Conservatives think of childen as property, so it's not surprising.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

unsurprising, when you realize they get their ideology from an iron age reboot of bronze age legal codes written by... grumpy old pervert men.

[-] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 weeks ago

The Supreme Court has been packed with religious nutjobs who don't give a damn about the mental health of transgender students.

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

parents’ claim that their rights [...] were violated.

Their rights? What about their children's!?

[-] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Do children really have the same rights as an adult though? Are parents not legally obligated to care for and to protect their children from access to firearms or a medical condition?

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They should take care and protect them. No doubt about that. But their kids should still be allowed to be themselves.

[-] tidderuuf@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

That's not what was presented to the Supreme Court. This wasn't a ban on kids being transgender or having anything medically done outside of their household. It's about hiding it from their parents. And the people crying foul about bad parents out there should probably take another look at eugenics then if they don't like what some parents are doing.

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Holy shit... A kid is growing up and going to be feeling hormones for the first time. The last thing they're going to want to do is be open book in front of god and everyone. Should their parents be there for them? Absolutely. But they shouldn't be held at gun point to speak.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

And the people crying foul about bad parents out there should probably take another look at eugenics then if they don't like what some parents are doing.

"If you don't want abusive parents to find out their child is trans then you should consider adopting some Nazi ideology"

Jesus fucking Christ that came out of nowhere.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago

If a child gains access to a firearm would you say the "parent's rights" were violated? Or is it just dangerous and against the law?

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

What do you have to do to come out as trans in school? Medical treatment or just ask for new pronouns? If it's just pronouns, maybe everyone can switch a few times per semester and it won't really tell the parents anything since almost all the notifications will be meaningless.

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

Awkward title.

[-] Cherry@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Wow you can clearly see the brigading starting to appear here, undermining constructive discussion.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Vagueposting is a scourge on the internet. It teaches people to not have actual values and the idea that we're all just separated niche groups who can communicate to each other via dogwhistles and gestures. It's anti-social and lacks actual values or principles.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not seeing the constructive discussion in your post.

[-] cutemarshmallow@europe.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

I've never had to face what it's like to be transgender. But I am what most would classify as "bisexual."

I didn't tell my mother about my sexual orientation until I was pressured to by my extended family at the age of 17. My mum is a religious Conservative who believes the LGBTQI+ community is a bunch of brainwashed kids having sexuality forced upon them from TV shows and drag queens. I didn't feel comfortable then, and it was scary, and the more I get to know my mum, the more I regret telling her. Now I know that every time she spews bigotry, she's doing so with the knowledge that I'm in the group she's targeting. Her knowing that her daughter, whom she raised and thought of as "normal" didn't stop her from spreading misinformation and fear-mongering. She treats me well, but she doesn't accept my whole self no matter how much she says she does. She still disregards my identity as nothing more than a trend for the mentally ill. She once told me, "Yeah, yeah, I know you think you're bi," meaning she doesn't actually believe I am but that I have been brainwashed to think I am.

So even though it's not the same experience, I understand what it's like having an extremely personal piece of information about your identity -- that you're still getting used to yourself -- being shared, with scary potential outcomes. I can imagine how even scarier it would be for someone in this situation to be transgender. While the general public has made some progress with the LGBTQI+ community, transgender people are still not safe.

Knowing about cases like Brianna Ghey (she was murdered by "friends," not her parents) breaks my heart. I can only imagine how terrifying it is to just exist as a transgender person in this world. Just because someone is your parent, doesn't mean that they will protect you any more than strangers or friends. Sometimes parents don't have your best interests at heart and can be your biggest bully.

Having such danger forced upon a CHILD is absurd. If it were up to me, I would leave it up to the student involved whether or not to share this information with their parents. It's not a medical condition, and children aren't properties of their parents. While I understand that some would want to be there for their children, some don't love their children unconditionally and would choose religion over their children any day. I think a student would know more about their parents' likely response than the school staff (who only see the parents for brief moments) and the government. I don't feel comfortable with this decision excluding the students' autonomy. They're not pets; they have a voice and personhood that should be respected.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

While my gut says this isnt a great decision, I can't think of another scenario where teachers/school are restricted in sharing information like this. I know sometimes teachers are designated reporters (have to report), but not aware of anything being restricted.

Is there some legal precedent for what California wanted to do?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

If a child tells a teacher they are being abused by a parent it seems likely that there would be rules in place for the teacher to not share that information with the parent.

[-] firelight@startrek.website -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

What's the problem here?

Schools shouldn't be allowed to keep important information about students from their parents or legal guardians, let alone required by law.

[-] Famko@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Unless the kids come from an abusive household where being gay or trans would be considered 'sinful' behavior so the kids don't want to come out to their parents in any way.

And then the schools will narc on them.

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