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[-] anzo@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago

I believe the community had expressed a lot of valuable ideas here, so I will keep the post. But I am locking the thread because it's just not information given in good faith. That's not to say that the points are all wrong, these can be debated. And we did debate. But the infographic itself is border to being just propaganda against a distro that serves well to a lot of users (this is a fact! even if me or you think those users could be served better.)

[-] rozodru@piefed.world 163 points 1 month ago

automatically attaching snaps to apt is pretty much the one reason why I'll never use Ubuntu. and now I find out here that they put damn ads in the terminal for "Ubuntu Pro"? oh get fucked Canonical.

Friends don't let Friends install Ubuntu.

[-] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 month ago

My main home server runs Ubuntu - I installed it 15-20 years ago and it's grown into a monster. I've been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian. Have to up the priority of that project.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 month ago

Debian is so nice as a server OS. It's also a great alternative for WSL if you're forced to use a Windows computer.

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[-] TheOneCurly@feddit.online 32 points 1 month ago

And they've tied the dependency tree together such that you can't disable them without entirely breaking updates.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago

Even Microsoft hasn't put ads in the terminal I think.

[-] bless@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Shh, don't give them ideas 🙏

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[-] luciole@beehaw.org 84 points 1 month ago
[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

Appreciate it as a mobile user!

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[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago

Strong agree. I use a derivative that blocks snaps instead of direct Kubuntu now, and it wasn't Just because of the snaps.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

I use a derivative

Without Ubuntu Pro subscription the entire Universe repository does not receive any security updates by Canonical:

https://canonical.com/blog/ubuntu-pro-enhanced-security-and-manageability-for-linux-desktop

You should consider switching to an entirely independent distribution that does not lock security updates behind a paywall, perhaps something based directly on Debian or Fedora.

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Update: Correction. While you do get five years of security updates for Universe on an Ubuntu LTS, those are updates done by the ubuntu community, not canonical. To get Universe security updates from Canonical, you do have to sign up to Ubuntu pro, which can be done without any payment, but as I describe in my original comment, does require creating an account.

While Canonical deserves the criticisms leveled by op (that I agree with), it's also incorrect to say that they lock security updated behind a paywall.

Anyone that does use Ubuntu gets security updated until they stop supporting that particular release version, which iirc is for six years (I may be wrong, thus is from memory).

If you want extended security updates for a specific version of the os, you can elect to sign up to Ubuntu pro without paying any money. You do have to make an account, and if you so choose you can populate the account info with garbage info and a disposable email, and you'll get extended security updates for that release version.

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[-] mrnngglry@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The updates available through Ubuntu Pro wouldn’t have normally been available prior to Pro. It’s an added service, not something that was previously available that is now locked behind a paywall. There are plenty of reasons to not like Canonical but this isn’t one.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

What's a better alternative that uses apt and KDE and has relatively up-to-date packages (other than Debian testing)?

[-] atomicStan@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

uses apt

May I ask why you seem to be married to the use of apt?

~~Just couldn't pass up on the opportunity to insert this banger.~~

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[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Linux mint Debian Edition, and just install KDE yourself ig, otherwise MX linux KDE

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[-] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 35 points 1 month ago

the malware one happens in most repos at some point, but the rest is why i dont use ubuntu.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Yes, that is not just OS repos. There have been plenty of cases with PIP and NPM hosting malware.

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[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 29 points 1 month ago

The best part of Ubuntu was improving Debian. In the beginning, Debian was a bit ugly and difficult. Ubuntu was competition, and perhaps resources (IDK) directly or indirectly. Debian is much easier to use than it was when Ubuntu was new.

Ubuntu is taking the RedHat approach (over complicating so that one must buy the support).

[-] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago
[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Thanks. I have to wonder if people became allergic to posting text that can be resized to my screen.

Although the site is also shit, on the phone the text column is like twenty characters wide.

[-] Willoughby@piefed.world 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

arch

bow and arrow

is this from another dimension?

Is .gif different there?

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

All symbols are wrong, but in ways that oddly make sense:

  • Mint - it's a leaf.
  • Fedora - it's a wearable.
  • Debian - the logo coils itself, so does a snake.
  • Arch - arcus~arco~arc is "bow" in Latin/Romance.

I don't know if what I'm going to say is correct, but this smells like LLM shitting emojis.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Seems in that place a Fedora is worn on the chest instead of head.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 month ago

I find it rather interesting that the same author wrote a new article about how to install Ubuntu 24.04 LTS the day after writing about Ubuntu's trust problem, but without mentioning the previous article or any point he previously made...

[-] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 34 points 1 month ago

I've come to learn that it might be AI writing these

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 month ago

100%... I just had a look through the other articles too and they reek of AI.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 month ago

Im pretty sure these articles are written with AI. He already uses AI for generating images for the articles too. Like this paragraph from one of the articles.. Who the fudge writes like this?

Text in image:

This single question filters out script writers from script engineers. Most beginners write scripts that silently fail. Production scripts at companies like Stripe or Palantir use strict error handling from line one.

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[-] Lawnman23@piefed.social 25 points 1 month ago

Ironically, just read an article recently about this exact issue.

https://itsfoss.com/opinion/why-hate-ubuntu/

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[-] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 month ago

Lmao, they put ads in the terminal? Are they pandering to Win11 users?? :)

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[-] Aatube@thriv.social 21 points 1 month ago

is it just me or does especially the text read AI-generated?

[-] kungen@feddit.nu 13 points 1 month ago

The whole "verified facts, no FUD" title is exactly the kind of shit an LLM would write. (And it'll still make up a ton of "facts", of course)

[-] whimsy@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

This style of website design is almost certainly AI made

[-] sobchak@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago

It's also using unicode emojis for Linux distros (that don't really make sense) instead of their logos. The whole thing is likely AI generated.

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[-] Xylight@lemdro.id 14 points 1 month ago

why is this infographic AI generated and where are the pixels

[-] Zier@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

Snap is the cancer of Linux. Go work for Micro$lop if you like to disrespect users.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Original at https://www.linuxteck.com/ubuntu-trust-problem-2026/

I wondered why they didn't mention that the Universe repository comes without any form of official support and that unpaid community members are expected to cherry pick bug fixes and backport them, usually resulting in no updates, a potential security risk.

Then I scrolled down and they're suggesting Ubuntu derivatives that are also affected by this (Mint pop). I have the suspicion that they don't mention to make these two look good.

See https://www.flu0r1ne.net/logs/ubuntu_withholding_universe_security_patches for a somewhat recent (2023) overview on that topic and how Ubuntu Pro plays into this.

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[-] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

ads in the terminal lol. back in 2009 I was a gentoo user and was distro shopping. looked at fedora Debian Ubuntu and arch and settled on Debian.

I don't remember if ubunto had either snap or unity back then... but I saw Ubunto as mainly making Debian easier to use. I was coming from Gentoo... debian was already easy to use 🙂

now, I use arch btw. switched in 2019 (mainly cause I got new hardware and needed latest releases and latest bugs 🙂)

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[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 10 points 1 month ago

Too many pixels

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 month ago

. . . and it all boils down to "Canonical being into rent-seeking and having weird NIH issues that make it push low-quality own software (snaps in the current iteration, but there have been others) over better solutions used by other distros."

[-] markz@suppo.fi 9 points 1 month ago
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[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Oh how I hated it when I experienced the snap shenanigan firsthand.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

With a title like that you know it's going to be 100% FUD. Not that Canonical doesn't deserve some of it.

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