The SSL certificate expiration thing was the canary in the coal mine. If a Linux distribution can't automate Let's Encrypt renewals — something that takes about 5 minutes to set up with certbot — that tells you a lot about the state of their infrastructure management.

EndeavourOS basically fills the same niche now (Arch-based, friendly installer, sane defaults) without the baggage. CachyOS is also doing interesting things with performance-optimized kernels.

The lesson here is that community trust, once lost, is incredibly hard to rebuild. Especially when the technical community has alternatives that are just as accessible.

Philip is an idiot don't use his stuff.

Manjaro is such an antipattern of a distro.

Arch Linux has a good installer now.

If you need good installer and sane defaults, EndeavorOs exists.

And the biggest advantages of arch Linux- the configurability, rolling updates, and AUR, all effectively get broken by Manjaro.

Honestly why is anyone using it or taking it seriously anymore?

So close.

Honestly the state of Manjaro saddens me. Years ago it was the on-ramp for (Arch) Linux for me. It was seen back then as what CachyOS is now. But it had issues back then which only got more frequent. I moved to Arch on all my new installs after that. I do hope that they can reform themselves and improve as seeing such a project stagnate is always sad. But centralization is just not what should be the case in such community projects.

They say that the leadership behind Manjaro does not line up with the actual developers and community involved in it, noting that Manjaro has become “one individual’s personal project, and everything is centralized around this single individual”

So just leave to one of the other existing Arch spin offs?