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Is it issues detecting and tracking? Seems like radar guided gun systems should shred shaheeds but perhaps I'm missing something.

I can see the difficulties tracking quad copter / fpv drones... anyone have insight?

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[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 days ago

Its a similar problem in the cold war aircraft. They fly low, so the time for detection, identification, targeting and shooting is quite short. The gun can shoot out to a few km, but can only see low flying targets out to a few hundred meters.

Gun systems only really work if you are defending a position targeting by the drone. Even then, you need a very large number of guns as each gun system only has an effective bubble of a few hundred meters against low flying drones.

Ukraine has been doing very well with audio based detection to give advanced warning and using man portable weapons to shoot down drones. Russian drones have since started flying higher, which then opens then up radar detection, bigger gun systems and interceptor drones.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Ukraine has been doing very well with audio based detection to give advanced warning and using man portable weapons to shoot down drones.

I wonder what would be required to detect the smaller targets at further ranges. Audio networks with large distribution might work...

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

that is slick

[-] Billy_fuccboi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago
[-] thessnake03@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We've come full circle

Used in early WW2 to listen for planes, pre radar

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Different but the greeks when besieged were known to drive stakes of brass with a thing brass plate above ground attatched to it at intervals, then they could see the vibrations from anyone tunneling under, what do they call it, sapping, they dig under, then burn the supports and collapse a section of wall to breach the city.

One incident the greeks made a chemical weapon out of chicken feathers and chicken shit and charcoal and lit it and threw it down there after they counter tunneled into them after seeing their vibrations.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Radar was developed before WW2. It was just really expensive, so analogue systems (eg, mk1 human eyeball, and this monstrosity) were used to supplement.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

It's simply a numbers game. Gepards are very effective against Shaheds but they only have a range of a few kilometres. You'd need hundreds to protect a major city. Those numbers just don't exist.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Valid. I wonder if we'll see distributed networks of radars capable of detecting smaller targets at longer ranges....

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 days ago

It seems more that drone combat is relatively new and we haven't seen the iteration for drone combat that other weapons systems have had.

It could be guns, drones, signal interference, or something else entirely.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

valid..... and if they focus everything on air we'll have ground and subterranean drones to contend with shortly.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

subterranean drones

Now I am imagining a mole drone slowly inching his way across the battlefield at night and sticking up like a little inconspicuous periscope type solar panel during the day.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

rumble rumble rumble rumble SLAVA UKRAINE BOOOM BLYAT

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago

We already have some forms of ground based drones. I don't see subterranean drones any time soon given the state of art in various forms of excavation.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

it was mostly in jest but I wouldn't put it past the Ukrainians to open a new front.

Given the ubiquity of explosive drones specifically I feel like we need that calendar cartoon with March 2026 being torn off to reveal July 1864

[-] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

because you can have anti-drone shotgun blyat! (serious concept sold as serious ppl)

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

blyat!

that thing but with Saiga shotties

[-] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

This seems great until you have to reload it

[-] Agility0971@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Thats why you keep a second stick nearby

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

desperate orks call for desperate blyat

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