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Damn kind of thought this would be an uplifting post.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

The U.S. is a very nice place to live.

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[-] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

The advertising industry.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Nah it's been a shit hole for centuries, both culturally and politically. Fun fact most of my ancestors were in North America before the United States existed, hasn't stopped dipshits from trying to "Americanize" us.

[-] disregardable@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

now that the DOJ doesn't prosecute for it anymore, we're way better at corruption. the rich take so much more of our taxes.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Today all the things are gone
I'd worked for all my life
And its hard to start again
With no children and my wife
I'd rue my cursed stars
To be living here today
'Cause the flag now stands for serfdom
And freedoms been taken away

And I'm ashamed to be an American
Where folks pretend their free
And I won't forget, the men who lied
Who took that life from me
And I'd gladly stand up
Next to you and regain her still today
'Cause ain't no doubt I used to love this land
God help the USA

From the lakes of Minnesota
To the hills of Tennessee
Across the plains of Texas
From sea to shining sea
From Detroit down to Houston
And New York to L.A
Well there's disgust in every American heart
And it's time we stand and say

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I was never nieve enough to think we are all equal. But I did think we where making progress in that direction and maybe we still are. But these last few years have been heart breaking

[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Used to be proud of the US? Why? Because of what? The many wars they started all those years, the inequality, mass shootings, war crimes, crimes against humanity in the incarceration system and with immigrants, still legal slavery (when incarcerated), the corruption, or the abuse of power on the world stage? Because that's been happening at least since the second World War. You know, when they dropped not just one but two nukes.

Edit: seeing the dislikes people don't like to be called out for being the bully? The US isn't a turd going down the drain, the US is the modern day fascist regime doing a Hitler 101. And all Americans do is complain they can't do anything and are the victim while the rest of the world is set on fire by the pedophile tyrant they chose back into office after the first term disaster.

Stop complaining, use your fucking second amendment, it's the reason you kept it: rise up against a hypothetical tyranical regime. All those deaths during the years at school shootings etc. were all worth it apparently. Well go on then eh. Now you have one. Clean up your own mess.

[-] SooperGoose@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 month ago

Maybe not the government, but look to the people.

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

Instead of trying to feel good, make it good. Go forth and organize for the better future that you wish to see.

[-] SoloPhoenyx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The protests in Oregon and Minnesota show that we are still America despite the MAGA separatists attempt to destroy us. And although this current chapter sucks hardcore, we now see our neighbors and "friends" for what they really are.

The separatists really thought they could just steamroll us. But, it didn't go according to plan. We also scare the whole cabinet enough that they are living on military bases because they literally fear for their lives.

MAGA is eating itself alive which is the only outcome of a movement based entirely on hatred and destruction. So, we are showing our resolve. That's the undercurrent that shows we still have some good left in us.

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

wait till november before doing a victory lap

[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

what did you use to be proud of?

[-] nile_istic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

If this is a genuine question, then my answer would be: a whole bunch of stuff I was taught that wasn't actually true.

The way American history was presented to me (and I assume lots of other Americans) in school was the rosiest tinted glasses version of our history that could possibly be constructed. We spent a whole lot more time talking about "breaking bread" with the native Americans rather than slaughtering them, and focused more on our early economic growth rather than the slaves on whose backs it was earned. Our involvement in various wars was characterized as "aid" or "ally-ship", or even stepping in as the "savior" who made sure the good guys won. Our sociopolitical progress (women's suffrage, the Civil Rights movement, etc) was framed as the goodhearted majority fighting against a smaller group of hateful bad actors, who all sort of magically disappeared whenever progressive legislation won out.

Simply put, it's revisionist history designed to retroactively affirm all the "land of the free, home of the brave" shit, when in reality this is a nation whose economy was built on the backs of slaves from all over the world, and whose sociopolitical ideology has always been steered by a small group of cruel and cowardly men who want endless personal power and wealth, to the direct detriment of their fellow country-folk.

There are things I'm genuinely proud of. Like all those who came before me who made it possible for me to vote/get an education/walk down the street while black, female, and queer. There are great American artists, academics, inventors—all sorts of people who've made meaningful contributions to the world. Like any other people, we are not all the worst of us.

But holy shit the worst of us are SO worst. And they're so loud, and they're so rich, and they've stolen so many of our resources, and they're doing so much fucking damage to practically everyone on earth, not to mention to the earth itself. And they've controlled the narrative for a very long time, have taught us (sold us) so much bullshit for so long that a lot of the things the average American is proud of are almost entirely fictional.

It's... disheartening.

[-] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

...and they’re so rich...

I hear ya, and I agree - but I think there's a huge number of not-so-wealthy Americans who are just as culpable. People who happily empower the billionaire class, hoping to catch a crumb of their wealth. And I don't claim to be different - when I was younger, I would have sold my soul for the right price.

The average ICE employee, for example, probably isn't so different from younger me. When a young person without a college education is offered a six-figure salary - they will accept first and ask questions later. Any moral or ethical qualms are quickly overcome by the realization that their bank account is steadily growing every week. They can enjoy life instead of struggling. They can take care of their loved ones. Meanwhile, the screams of children become part of the normal workweek. It's crazy but that's human nature. We are cruel creatures.

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[-] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

They wouldn't be proud if they weren't ignorant

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

MLK jr and the civil rights movement are just as much a part of America as Jim Crow and slavery. ICE is America but so is every protester fighting it. Lincoln is America. The KKK is America. Trump is America. Luigi is America.

The thing about people is we like to make things simple and put things in a box, and not have exceptions. But that's almost never true, and the US is a land of contradictions. We're very good people, and we're very bad people.

So yeah, it's going down the drain, but it's always been going down the drain. It's also going to get better, and it always has, little by little. Hopefully we can weather this storm and rebuild.

[-] Poojabber@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

This has always been my point when people say "back in the good ol days" or "Make America great again" or any other nonsense about how it used to be better.... this is pretty much the best it has ever been! Even with the dipshit in office at the moment, it has pretty much always been greedy dipshits in control.... we are raising the best generation to date in terms of nutrition being provided, the most inclusive in terms of race/gender/sexual preference.... all we can do is hope we continue to make gradual improvement. People have always sucked. The elite have always raped and pillaged the poor.... but there is less of that now than any time in history..... slavery and depravity have been a part of history since we started recording history. I just cross my fingers and try to enlighten the young in my field of influence to be good humans and hope that some day we might not be as horrible as we have always been.

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Idk we're back sliding a lot right now. Overturning row v and well, the rest of what is going on. I just hope we can move forward sometime and soon

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