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Police in U.S. say technology is helpful but researchers say Canada should hesitate before using it

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[-] jsdz@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wonder how disastrously bad things will need to get before it finally breaks through into public consciousness that maybe putting surveillance cameras everywhere was a bad idea. I expect we'll find out in a couple of decades.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

This isn't really the issue.

The real issue is that people have become so soft, so INCREDIBLY dependant on convenience, that they have given up all control. Having autonomy/privacy/ownership over your own environment is just too much work. It's easier to just let someone else handle the surveillance system for you. What could go wrong?

This issue of complacency plagues just about everything, from cloud computing and banking to transportation and housing.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

wall-e except it'll be even more dystopian and the robot love story will instead be a deathmatch between rival corporation robo-wardogs

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Surveillance cameras are fine imo. It's connecting those cameras to some random server you don't control that's the concerning part.

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm really unsure of how this will play out. Gen Z seems to be way more okay with stuff like this and I think it's just a general mindset shift that I don't really see changing. Gen Z tends to constantly share their location with every acquaintance, on snapchat, etc all the time.

As much as stuff like this freaks me out and seems many steps too far, younger generations don't, so I feel this is going to get worse over time, not better.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago
And this is why I have no cameras in my home
[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Hmm, do you have something to hide? A camera twerk a day keeps the search orders away!

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

My homie, my twerks are free for all visitors, but you gotta leave the camera at the door

[-] pandarisu@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

No, no, this is why I walk around naked. If they're going to be spying on me, I want to make them suffer

[-] Butterbee@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago

If I have cameras.. I really don't mind supplying the footage if police ask. But I really would like that they ask. And I REALLY don't want them to have footage that they don't ask for and don't obtain a warrant for.

[-] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 8 points 10 months ago

"Police in U.S. say technology is helpful[...]"

The same police in the US who need military grade APCs for reasons unknowable to the universe?

[-] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 4 points 10 months ago

The same police in the US who need military grade APCs for reasons unknowable to the universe?

It was useful in Nakatomi Plaza siege, oh wait..

[-] krousenick@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

How does this Fusus get access to private security camera feeds? I would assume companies and citizens will have to opt in to the sharing? https://www.fusus.com/

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yep, it's intended to be opt in from the article

Police let people know which cameras might be useful or people can try to sign up on their own

[-] webhead@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

This is why I refuse to own Ring cameras. Any company that has a program at all to share with the police is a nope from me. I don't care if they say it's opt in, it won't be.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

fucking disgusting

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


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Some of those in attendance saw a demo of Fusus — a paid service that makes it easier for police to access privately owned security camera footage from residents and businesses.

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The cameras, Barth said, are a "time-saver" for lower-priority calls like property crimes and make it easy for police to give video to lawyers requesting footage of car crashes.

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She points to Clearview AI, a controversial facial recognition tool Canadian police services secretly used until privacy watchdogs ordered them to stop.

Tusikov said Fusus would be a "disproportionate response" to crimes like auto theft, which has been surging in Canada, and likely wouldn't help with intimate partner violence, which has been declared an epidemic in Hamilton and other cities across the country.

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CBC contacted Canadian police services at the Real Time Crime Center Operations and Tech Integration conference, asking if any of them use Fusus or are exploring using it or similar technology.

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"We would especially encourage this given that Fusus appears to involve real-time monitoring and unmediated access to private surveillance cameras which may come with a greater risk of intrusion into the privacy of individuals," the IPC said.


The original article contains 1,187 words, the summary contains 208 words. Saved 82%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Oh Neptune.

[-] MOUCHE_A_MERDE@jlai.lu 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

i'm tech and my cam password is 123456. no, i joke, i have leave blank my password.

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