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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by pglpm@lemmy.ca to c/linux@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/44781501

GrapheneOS will remain usable by anyone around the world without requiring personal information, identification or an account. GrapheneOS and our services will remain available internationally. If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.

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[-] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 week ago

That is the way. I just don't understand open source projects that have no ties to regions where these dumb regulations exist blocking users from said region. Why is it your problem? If California (for example) wants to block your website, let it be their problem.

[-] pglpm@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Agree. In fact, even projects that do have ties to those regions. Free & open-source is a stance.

[-] Mordikan@kbin.earth 7 points 1 week ago

Its the Chilling Effect. Fear of breaking a law (even if that law ends up not being applicable to you) is enough to scare people into complying with it. I've seen companies worry about GDPR that have no presence in the EU. Yes, the EU could still fine them, but they wouldn't have to actually pay or even acknowledge it.

[-] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

I wonder how many countries' laws every Linux distribution violates by existing (e.g. North Korea, Turkmenistan) but these bozos at Arch Linux 32 don't proactively block.

[-] 1dalm@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

Are there any actual "GraphineOS" devices currently for sale anywhere?

(I know Motorola has some plans to roll out GraphineOS phones in the future, but this would probably complicate those plans if GraphineOS really prohibits Motorola from complying with laws.)

[-] Unreliable@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Outside of buying a supported Pixel device and flashing it yourself? Not that I'm aware of.

[-] pglpm@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was wondering the same. I have an extremely old Android that's dying, and as soon as it does I'll look for devices ~~with~~ that can run GrapheneOS. As @Unreliable@lemmy.ml says, it seems Pixel is the only one for now, and possibly one needs a slightly older model as well. That's what I'll look for.

[-] mwhj28@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Per their website, everything in the Pixel line apart from the 10a is supported. They will be supported as long as firmware and security patches are available. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices

[-] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

What's the issue with the 10a?

[-] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

10a is supported, but flagged experimental:
https://grapheneos.org/releases

[-] pglpm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago
[-] 1dalm@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

Pixel isn't sold with GraphineOS. You have to install it yourself.

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

actually, some websites do sell pixels with grapheneos preinstalled, for example, https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/category/smartphone-tablet-4

[-] snowykitty@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

1000% do NOT do that! the installation process is simple enough, why would you trust a random third party

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Nitrokey is legit. But still, installing GrapheneOS is super easy and used hardware so cheap, you may as well just install it.

[-] f3nyx@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

this service exists mostly for people who can't purchase a pixel directly. nitrokey ships internationally

[-] pglpm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Didn't know this, thanks for the info!

[-] pglpm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Absolutely true, I was sloppy in my writing. Edited.

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