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Trump's Kobayashi Maru (media.piefed.social)

Iran may have found the move Trump can never play

Original article:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03/22/world/iran-war-oil-trump

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[-] Akh@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine all it takes is the US and Israel to legit say say sorry to Iran and show Iran respect in the future to restore energy security and know you are fucked because of pride

[-] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Given the people involved, 'all' is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

They did just defeat Trump ... he has no respect for anything.

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

LIES! FALSE!
What about the respect for the hard work child traffickers put in? What about the redirect for other dictators? What about the respect for other child rapists?

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

That is envy and sense of entitlement to "his share" ... its almost respect, but is still just the formless emotions of a soulless man baby.

[-] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, there were 2 ships hit with drones… there are reasons for the insurers to be afraid

Edit source; https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c80j4rln8zmo

[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, they fear the hot war Trump started without consulting any allies (except Bibi) nor any preparation

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Trump can’t back down. He has no other method of operation than application of further force to make his opponent yield.

You will do what I want, you’re making me do this. This is your fault I have to hurt you more. Anything you do in retaliation is your fault and not a justifiable reaction to what I’m doing to you and I will hurt you harder for everything you do to defend yourself.

He’s an abuser.

If he were to stop, that would mean losing face and the possibility be were wrong.

No narcissist can do that.

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So he is saying that Iran is not responsible for *checks notes* Iran selectively and deliberately hitting ships of third party nations not involved in the war? That is not how moral responsibility works. How old is he, 5 years old?

[-] Eximius@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Strait of Hormuz is not international waters. They are fully allowed to close it, at least on their side of the strait. When people ignore laws, usually there is a penalty and enforcement. Closure here is enforced by missiles.

Whether Oman is a party in this war (given their harboring of US bases and military assets) is up to debate.

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They are fully allowed to close it

According to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), ships have a right to transit international straits like the Straight of Hormuz. Article 38 to be exact: https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdf

at least on their side of the strait.

And as you say, their side. But it is quite clear that Iran has closed the whole thing, also the part Iran has no right to.

Whether Oman is a party in this war (given their harboring of US bases and military assets) is up to debate.

Has Oman allowed attacks from the bases (I don't actually know)? If not, then Oman is not party to the war. But it seems pretty clear that Iran would not restrain itself in either case, right?

And in any case, this is civilian ships, which are not valid targets even in a war.

[-] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

The US bombed a fucking school and killed over 100 kids. The US and Israel started the attacks on civilians.

[-] Eximius@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I dont know. Generally it gets a bit muddy at such a stage. Are they party to the war? Did they expressly forbid USA from using military bases to resupply from/attack Iran? Did Oman cushly stay silent and complicit playing both sides? Are trade ships that are trading with the enemy, not expressly and officially guaranteed by Oman not valid targets in a strait majorly controlled by Iran (even the Oman territorial waters are a bit silly once you take into account the geography)? (Not talking about people, but about infrastructure and supply chain)

If anything, Iran, in its desperation, is fighting well against the superest most bigliest ultra fascist state in the making.

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Generally it gets a bit muddy at such a stage.

I think international law is actually pretty clear, in general. You don't get to shoot at every ship that moves.

Are trade ships that are trading with the enemy, not expressly and officially guaranteed by Oman not valid targets

Iran is shooting all the ships. It is pretty clear that "legality" is not a concern Iran has.

If anything, Iran, in its desperation, is fighting well against the superest most bigliest ultra fascist state in the making.

This seems to be the root. You see that Trump/USA is evil here, which it is. And then somehow conclude that Iran must be good, if Iran is fighting against Trump.

Iran is evil too. Fucking evil. Killing innocent civilians deliberately and laughing at it evil.

There is a trend of ignoring how evil some of the Muslim groupings in the Middle East are. That has got to stop. It almost seem like "white man's burden" - as if people think Muslims don't have agency to know right from wrong.

[-] Eximius@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I guess you're right about the international law. But then again, it's been out the window for a while.

I didn't write any conclusions about Iran regime being non evil. But looking at history, you'd be a fool not to see its instability rooted in US/Israel/UK domination goals.

The excerpts from UN assemblies I saw, Iran was quite repetitive, but spoke much more eloquently than the US. Make of that what you will, in the age of ai slop.

[-] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, going into a negotiation with a very public message of KISS THE BOOT OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES will generally have people going pretty far to keep it from looking like you're getting your way. It's a matter of dignity, and a lot of people take that quite seriously.

this post was submitted on 23 Mar 2026
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