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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Teknevra@literature.cafe to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://literature.cafe/post/30387402

@threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works

Ik that there used to be Diagonlemmy, but, IMHO, we should create an instance that is exclusive to Harry Potter, and the Wizarding World.


Perhaps call the instance Wizarding.World, or something.

That way, Fediverse users who wish to interact with Harry Potter material can, and other users/instances/etc, can defederate/don't have to.


Harry Potter is only going to become more popular.

The HBO Harry Potter series is coming. Whether we like it or not, the HP fandom is about to have a significant resurgence, and it's going to find a home somewhere on the internet.


The question is whether that somewhere is Reddit, Discord, and corporate platforms — or whether the Fediverse gets there first and shapes what that community looks like.

People flock to spaces where they feel familiar and welcomed.


Rowling will profit from HP whether a Lemmy instance exists or not.

The Fediverse needs more projects that make immediate sense to people, and it needs to stop ceding entire fandoms to corporate platforms by default.


The move isn't to reject the fandom.

The move is to build the instance with explicit values — pro-trans, pro-queer, progressive moderation, zero tolerance for bigotry.

Pull HP fans into federated, open spaces and surround them with those values.

That's far more powerful than gatekeeping.


I shared this, because I wanted to know what the general consensus was.

Also if there were any users who might have any experience with potentially creating/running their own instance.

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[-] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 5 points 3 weeks ago

Why would this decision require a public feedback sesh? Build it and they will come. Or they won't because they read some stuff about the author.

[-] Teknevra@literature.cafe 0 points 3 weeks ago

Because a lot (if not most) of Fediverse hate anything Harry Potter.

Also, neither me, nor the community's mod, have the resources to potentially create an instance.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

No need to do it yourself. Let someone do it for you. There's Communickwhich can also setup a matrix server for you (in addition to Lemmy). There might be others, but I dont know of them.

I think it's the cost of a Netflix subscription.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 0 points 3 weeks ago

I checked out the website, but I can't find any mention of being able to migrate away or downloading the databases. How do these managed services work?

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hey, Communick founder here. End of last year we did the migration for ttrpg.network from K&T to our servers. There were definitely some issues in the beginning as that was the first large-ish instance in terms of community activity, but things now seems to be a lot better. To anyone willing to migrate, I can extend the same deal I offered to @eerongal@ttrpg.network: if you commit to an yearly plan, I can waive the setup fee.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hosting a harry potter instance - $10/mo (* I have no idea how much proprietary shit costs)

Supporting fascism - PRICELESS!

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

Communick is fascist? Where did you get that information?

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

What's interesting about this, is you post it as if it's a question, and despite getting an almost universal "Fuck no" as the answer to the question, you're just arguing that we should do it.

If you want to do it, do it. But stop looking for validation for it. You're asking for approval to celebrate and recognise someone who actively targets and harms trans people. You're not going to get that approval. So either take that as the answer, or stop pretending it was ever a question.

[-] gabe@literature.cafe 2 points 3 weeks ago

Be prepared to be defederated from almost immediately as it opens by people... as well, as an instance admin, I can say it is hard. Even for a small instance. As well, people are just going to downvote your instances content as soon as its posted. The only reason we have the harry potter community still on literature.cafe is because its dead and most posts to it are critique of the TERF JK Rowling and the series, if it was positive content we'd likely have to delete it.

[-] Teknevra@literature.cafe 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That wouldn't matter.

It would actually most likely be beneficial, given that the instance would give a space to all of the existing potterheads out there.

Plus, most of the existing instances wouldn't have to deal with HP/JK conversations and media, because all of the admin and whatnot of the various different instances could tell any users that try to please keep all HP/JK media to the Wizarding.World (or WizardingWorld.Lemmy, or whatever name the instance potentially ends up having).

Ie

Similar to how a Quarantine works.

Plus, it would help to bring in a ton of new users, to the Fediverse.


if it was positive content we'd likely have to delete it.

Nice to see that censorship is still alive and well, even in The Fediverse.

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

Plus, it would help to bring in a ton of new users, to the Fediverse.

Yay, more folks who are happy to fund the erasure of trans people. Can't wait! /s

[-] gabe@literature.cafe 1 points 3 weeks ago

You would likely need more than one admin. Regardless, I wish you the best of luck because you're going to need it.

[-] Teknevra@literature.cafe 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you very much

[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

People can like and love Harry Potter without endorsing or even being aware of Rowling and her views.

[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

Lol, you've heard of the idea of publicity right?

[-] Teknevra@literature.cafe -1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 3 weeks ago

It puts money into her pocket and enables her to spread her hate.

[-] vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] metakrakalaka@lemmychan.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

If you want to.

I think it makes sense to follow the Star Trek instance and just have local communities centered around Harry Potter while allowing federation with everything else.

[-] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago
[-] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Just "transphobe" works better, tbh.

[-] Brewchin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

And would work as a Belgian gTLD domain, as with the shortener for youtu.be 😄

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No. We don't need a new instance for every mass media piece of shit. Definitely not scumbag HP.

Make an instance for Hoppers first. I hear it's actually good.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago

As long as it’s okay to criticize homophobia and transphobia JK Rowling spews, I say go for it.

[-] Teknevra@literature.cafe 0 points 3 weeks ago

I personally wouldn't mind, as long as that wasn't your only intention, and you did it in the correct communities / weren't trolling.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's not my intention, but I think it should be allowed.

I've been a fan of the Harry Potter series since the first movie. Not a huge fan, but I enjoyed the first four (books and movies, the latter 3/4 not so much) and some of the associated media.

These days you can't say you're a fan of Harry Potter without someone throwing JK Rowling's transphobia in your face. The problem is, I agree with them. JK Rowling is a trash human. I still like the stories she told and I enjoy some of the movies. I enjoyed the recent game, Hogwarts Legacy. I enjoy that the developers included a trans character to spite Rowling.

I don't think every Potterhead should be harassed for JK Rowling's views, but I also think it's difficult to engage with the community without considering it, given that the author is so public with her views. It's the same with Orson Scott Card and Ender's Game. Similar fandom (academia in space rather than witch/wizard fantasy), similar issue (author is homophobic). Similarly, the LGBTQ+ community tried to cancel the fandom, and these days, fans acknowledge Card was wrong, but the books still hold merit. Also, just like JK Rowling's author insert character Hermione is completely opposite to the author's views, so too was Ender (who was kind of like a meek version of Harry).

But nah, my favourite bone to pick with the Potterverse isn't that the author is human garbage (which is technically outside of the Potterverse), it's that Gryffindor = good, Slytherin = evil, and the other two Houses don't matter. As a Ravenclaw (or rather, I would be a Ravenclaw if I went to Hogwarts), this annoys me. It also seems to me that the better backdrop for the story would be if Harry and Draco were more directly rivals, Harry was about to be placed in Slytherin for his ambition (to best Draco) but he gets placed in Gryffindor instead. (This is more or less how it already goes.) But then Ron gets placed in Hufflepuff and Hermione in Ravenclaw, because that just makes more sense, and the four of them basically work together, often over the objections of their Houses being against them working together rather than sticking with their own House. I'm also suggesting that Draco explore his shades of grey rather than being "the bully." It makes more sense for the other Slytherins to use him (and his father's position) to reach their own goals than it does for Draco to merely be a shadow of his father.

[-] morgan_423@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The move isn’t to reject the fandom.

The move is to build the instance with explicit values — pro-trans, pro-queer, progressive moderation, zero tolerance for bigotry.

This feels like building a forum to discuss Mein Kamph, and then saying it's going to moderated with a focus on inclusion, human rights, and diversity.

With the whole HP thing, there are IMO far too many people fully separating the art and the artist. I just can't morally do that.

[-] FEIN@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I understand the point you're making, but we might be losing the plot comparing Mein Kampf to Harry Potter...

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago

Why would you create something before there was demand for it? Seems completely backwards.

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