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[-] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

Please I beg of you, just recommend people Mint. Catchy is great, it’s very easy and smooth as arch goes.

But if you have someone who is under the illusion that Linux is hard. The moment they have any issue it might frustrate them enough to bounce off. I know so many people who have gotten recommended some flavor of the week like Manjaro, Bazite, Pop_Os or Nobara, who that has happened with. I’ve never talked to anyone who was recommended Mint with Cinnamon, used it, and then decided it was too hard and went back to windows. Plenty of people will say “well I used XYZ and didn’t have any issues” or the issues were minor enough and the answers easy enough that they stuck around, but that’s survivorship bias, the people who didn’t deal with it aren’t here to say otherwise.

So just send them to cinnamon mint, there will be no hiccups, it will just work. Maybe later they’ll be like “yah, I kind of want to see what else is out there” and then they can try other things. I get that, cinnamon mint is limited in some ways, but not in ways a first time Linux user is going to care about.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The first person I met who used Mint was asking me how to fix his Nvidia output stutter lol.

The answer was updated kernel shenanigans which is probably Mint's only weakness.

Anyways, that's usually why I recommend Fedora since I think it properly fits the same spot where Ubuntu was like 15 years ago. Cutting edge stable, large community, and much easier support than something more downstream.

That being said, a good chunk of users have been quite happy with stuff like Bazzite and CachyOS because they're mostly here to play games.

But yeah I agree, the popular recommendations of the week really need to be ignored for first time users. I still remember when they were pretty much all just Ubuntu downstreams that never fixed any of the upstream issues that Canonical created, which led to a ton of youtubers thinking Linux stability was behind.

On a similar note, it's also why I recommend literally any DE except GNOME. It looks and functions like a knockoff ChromeOS tablet, despite the fact that it used to be the home of Compiz 15+ years ago, which is the peak of desktop UX lol.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

I hear a lot of love for Fedora.

Even though I happily run OpenSUSE Tumbleweed myself, I have run into the occasional "What the ever-loving heck" issue that I've had to stubbornly troubleshoot, and I worry that'd make some people run away crying.

I have a family member with a really old laptop enjoying Mint, but my wife's and my best buddy's gaming PCs might be worth giving Fedora a shot on.

Like me, they need those updated Nvidia drivers and Wayland, and honestly most importantly for familiarity + cool-new-thing factor: KDE plasma 6! ;)

[-] Muehe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

cool-new-thing factor: KDE plasma 6!

I found the "Fall apart" option last week which makes windows explode into tiny bits when you close them. Never had so few lingering windows open in my life.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

Pew pew!!!

OMG if you like that you'll probably also love Burn My Windows (https://github.com/Schneegans/Burn-My-Windows)

Those effects are ported to Plasma too! You can get 'em through the KDE Store / get new stuff system. :D

[-] FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Zorin OS is also a good choice if they have a high resolution screen, because Mint's Cinnamon desktop has awful screen tearing when you increase the scaling.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Zorin user here. Might switch to Mint. Might not help, but after almost 2 years, I still don't know what I'm doing.

Unless it's flatpak.

But like, I have no idea how to update my bluetooth driver. And I really want to.

There are other utilities that I can't install. It's like the tools you need to install to make linux easy still need terminal to install.

It's all "you're missing prerequesits. They won't be installed".

So you need to be smart enough in linux to install the tools to make it easy, but if you knew how to install the tools, you wouldn't need them.

[-] FG_3479@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Using Zorin's Software Updater app will update everything for you.

[-] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Very true, I began my own linux journey, almost 20 years ago (fuck I feel old) with Ubuntu, not for any other reason other than it being the only linux distro that had any mass appeal, relatively speaking. But it was a perfect introduction to linux.

Debain-based distros are the way to go for linux newbs, but i'm sure some tech savvy people might like an arch based distro instead. All in all, experimentation, especially when you're young and not obligated to work or a wife and kids, is great for providing enough time to learn and grow in the linux world.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 0 points 1 month ago

I've been using Linux for 20 years: Ubuntu, Arch, elementaryOS, etc. I've tried and used a bunch of them.

But I need to get work done. I don't have time to tinker anymore.

I've switched to Mint last year. Best choice ever. It just works, easy peasy.

[-] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Funny, i'm also 20 years into linux, but i still love to tinker, and im slowly teaching my child how to use linux. I'm literally installing arch right now as I type this. I love customizing the OS, and ive built a post OS install script to handle all the software and driver stuff.

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

LMAO Cursing your friends isn't nice, CachyOS is for those that are comfortable with Linux...And the dreaded Arch.

[-] danciestlobster@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

I heard cachy was better than average arch in complexity. I am very new to Linux with minimal computer skills and have been very happy with bazzite but most of my friends I try to convert are cachy loyalists

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

CachyOS is still going to demand more from you than Bazzite in terms of computer skills...Manual interventions (because the Arch Team cannot help themselves but move too fucking fast). Not like I can complain about that, given I have openSUSE Tumbleweed installed and am in SELinux range.

Bazzite is nice, as it can be as simple or as complex as you'd like!

[-] goreverminski@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I am loving, loving KDE and Bazzite. It feels like such a mature operating system compared to ol' Windows :D

[-] redsand@infosec.pub 0 points 1 month ago

It is. Fedora is on version 44

[-] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh yeah? Windows 98 will blow you out of the water!

[-] Alk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Cachy is great for newbies. There's no tweaking required, at least not more than mint. The AUR has all your weird niche programs you had on windows that apt and flatpak don't have. It just works out of the box.

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

So you say, but, the installer...Man that thing doesn't want to work with my system (even with secure boot off). It was the one that had the most failures with not creating a boot record, failing to install the Linux kernel, or the NVIDIA drivers. Other distros have vert polished and sleek installer experiences. CachyOS, in my personal experience I don't find it to be a good one. On paper, it is (I did a lot of reading to figure out how to get CachyOS installed).

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

I think SteamOS Desktop is what will tip the balance. People want a corporation with a familiar and quality reputation. CachyOS, Bazzite, Fedora, Arch, Red Hat, all are just weird entities that the ordinary person wouldn't know.

As for myself, I will pick CachyOS or SteamOS, depending on what reviews say when comparing the two. I want flexibility for modding and some other power-casual stuff, but also want documentation and a large community of people familiar with my OS of choice. SteamOS is likely to be that choice, assuming that Valve doesn't mess up.

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 points 1 month ago

Putting all your eggs in one basket is dangerous

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[-] Denjin@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

Gone from Windows to Ubuntu based to Fedora based to finally an Arch based distro with CachyOS over the last couple of years and I have never once regretted making the jump.

Especially since I still have a windows install that I use for a couple of very specific uses that I can't do on Linux and it's a pain in the proverbial every single time.

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Finally cutting the cord on Windows due to finally breaking free from the last bits of software keeping you there feels so good.

When those gaps in when you boot into that Windows partition get further and further apart until the day it finally happens. The day that you no longer remember the last time you booted into that Windows machine. The day you can finally let yourself be free.

For me the last pieces were Lightroom and Fusion360.

[-] Boost@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Did you find a good alternative to fusion?

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

FreeCAD since it's gone to 1.0 has been my replacement and it's been quite nice to work with

It's got a bit of a learning curve because of some different workflow things but all in all I've been enjoying it

[-] Boost@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That's good to hear. I'm hoping freeCAD has a Renaissance similar to blender did the last few years that makes it competitive with the popular closed source tools, but it sounds like it's getting there.

[-] irate944@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

recommends arch based distros to everyone

“Wait why do you guys say linux is complex and difficult!?”

[-] Alk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

It just works out of the box. Not much tweaking required with cachy. Arguably less than other distros since all my weird niche prigrams are available on the AUR and not apt or flatpak.

[-] voodooattack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I’m a NixOS fanboy now :/

[-] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Let me suggest you EndeavorOS

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
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[-] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

i used to use cacht, but after updating to kde plasma 6.6 it would freeze after i put the correct login and password. thankfully it has snapshots, so i could just not update it for a while.

i waited for 6.6.1, and instead of freezing it just closed and reopened the login page. 6.6.2 went back to freexing forever.

so i gave up, and installed base arch to see if that'd work, and it did! i also found out that archinstall is a thing! (i had installed arch manually many times a while back, and the clock time always broke) i did break it once by not configing limine snapper correctly, but now it's great, and feels basically equal to cachy (except things don't break and there isn't a bunch of unecessary programs installed)

[-] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

This has been fixed since then.

Also to get around it just press ctrl alt f2 and sign in in the window that appears. But like I said, no need since it has been fixed.

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Still unacceptable

People just want something that works reliably

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

Why is cachyOS the current thing?

[-] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

it's the current arch based distro that makes arch more accessible to newcomers

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

(Sad forgotten Endeavour OS noises.)

[-] OR3X@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

YouTube and social media drive a lot of it. I call them bandwagon distros.

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah I thought that might be it.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Because it's what I'm using and I'm a victim of the availability hueristic.

I do like it though. I didn't try Endeavor OS but figure it's similar.

[-] boboliosisjones@feddit.nu 1 points 1 month ago

Good performance, easy to use, easy to install. GUI for everything you need if you prefer.

[-] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'll Bully Spam every gaming CEO until they support ONE god damn Linux distro like SteamOS. SLOP MICROSLOP SLOP, anticheat doesn't fix shit! BF6 is basically proof.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

On W11 I have gotten 2 popup ads for copilot today. Linux users, i know you think W11 is bad but its worse than you think.

[-] rozodru@piefed.world 1 points 1 month ago

CachyOS is a good option. maybe not as a brand new person to Linux but it's fast and has everything you need.

Bazzite is fine too if you just depend on flatpaks which might make a windows to linux transition easier.

I'm currently trying PikaOS for the week and it's ok. It's fast, games as well if not ever so slightly better than CachyOS, but it feels a little TOO opinionated. For example if you install the Niri version (and I assume the hyprland version also) Kitty is baked into it to the point were potentially removing kitty breaks other dependencies. I don't like that. Kitty is a bloated mess of a terminal and I'd much rather use Foot. Also the Pikabar thing is garbage. it's a fork of Noctalia with ALL the options stripped out of it for whatever reason. But PikaOS is very easy to install and fairly minimal with what it does install. It's nice but it's kinda all over the place with things.

I'll probably just end up going back to NixOS in a week anyways.

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