With Red Hat Device Edge Lockheed Martin is leading the infusion of cutting-edge commercial technology into military capabilities that deliver advanced solutions to our customers.
Justin Taylor, Vice President, F-22 technology, Lockheed Martin
this sentence should be enough to drop red hat instantly
This is so much worse than I expected. They seemed to be actively pivoting to a Palantir-esque "yeah, we're the bad guys" strategy, but are chickening out a bit on broadcasting it.
I have been saying that Fedora is THE GUY for doing linux in bed with the US government. It's always the first distro to push to mainstream new tantalizingly convenient technologies developed by their pet devs replacing well understood code that's had thousands of eyeballs on it over the years.
I don't fuck with Fedora. I considered them fairly benign-to-positive back when I was less of a hardliner, but these days I consider them to be sucking the good will, talent and money out of the industry, sitting in an incumbent role as a commercial contractor that could be served by a thousand smaller local companies.
BDS the shit out of them. Redhat was cool back in the day, thanks for that, now move out of the way.
It's a fuckin shame because Fedora is genuinely the most stable and functional distro I've used since moving to Linux. It feels like a polished product.
Then again, it feels like a product from an American corporate machine that gets away with it because they're marginally better than their competitiors (see: Valve Inc. and Steam).
And then what? we have Ubuntu derivatives (another US state asset). Debian is potentially close to a stable user distro that isn't as deeply entrenched in the imperial core. But then surely any distro is under the thumb of the fascists? Linux is de facto property of Intel, Cisco, IBM, Oracle, and a bunch of other CIA fronts.
Not to shit on boycotting Redhat or Fedora, but I just wonder how many steps of separation it is from Linux and its own evils.
Yeah I had to make a burner laptop for travel a while back and was really surprised with how slick and luser-proof their distro was. Had like way better mixed DPI support and a bunch of other conveniences I didn't think were solved at the time.
I reckon OpenSuse might be the next best thing to Fedora in this regard, but I've only used it a little bit and don't know enough to whole heartedly recommend it. I just have found Suse had also managed to create that slick professional experience and also streamlined a lot of the best "new shit" into a distro that felt like it should meet the expectations of eg a Mac user or a corporate Windows user (with some training.)
People on the FEDiverse almost convinced me to switch from NixOS to FEDora because NixOS is too problematic.
Linux Maoist standard english lol.
NixOS is also dependent on Microsoft GitHub and AWS for infrastructure and have zero plans to address this.
Problematic in what sense? I don't know much about NixOS or its "scene" or whatever.
I had to make an installer for someone who wanted to install Bazzite which I was disappointed to learn is yet another FEDora RAT.
A large part of tHe NiXOs CoMmUnItY is MIC like Anduril. Which yes is a big whammy.
There are other divides too but this is the most morally hazardous.
Yep, we/they even re-elected an anduril employee to the steering committee (I put him literally last on my ballot and tried to campaign for others to do the same but I guess it wasn't enough). I mostly stopped interacting with the community after that. The tech is cool, Nixpkgs is a goldmine of knowledge comparable to ArchWiki, but the community turned into a nazi bar :/
Tomberek has been voted in last place the most of all candidates. Not something ballot count takes into account.
I'm pretty sure the ballot count did take that into account, it was a Meek STV (single-transferrable vote), so if a candidate was voted low in preference lists a lot they generally wouldn't win. The issues is that while a lot of people put him last, more people didn't.
Putting someone in 10th or in last place makes almost no practical difference, enough people put him among the first places to get him in.
Oh yeah absolutely.
Instead of Bazzite, try CachyOS.
But actually tho. Its testing better than Windows at running Windows games in Wine. https://www.pcguide.com/news/new-cachyos-vs-windows-11-gaming-benchmarks-reveal-impressive-results-for-linux-from-space-marine-2-to-resident-evil-requiem/
CachyOS
What's the selling point for CachyOS? Is it basically the gaming distro based on Arch that is not SteamOS?
Yeah, basically. And its set up to be a much simpler install than Arch.
Again, it beat Windows at Windows gaming.
Damn. Is it really just Debian and Arch that don't have skeletons in their closet?
I dunno I've never seen any valid criticism of slackware.
Oh and when I say ""i have been saying" I mean since the early 2000s btw.
And older archive of that page, but I don't think much has changed in the text since its an old blog post from 2012: https://archive.ph/7GBl4
accusations / discourse from 2014: https://fossforce.com/2014/01/red-hat-working-nsa/
systemd
https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2023/jun/23/rhel-gpl-analysis/
(lol redhat's consultancy wing's gitlab instance got pwnt by a crew called Crimson Collective at the end of last year - I'm guessing there are some really interesting clients in the data set. lol based they just found leaked auth tokens with trufflehog. that's so funny)
I'm not a Linux newbie, but I do hate having to compile and install and generally "be a tech guy" about my casual gaming and writing computer.
So I just use Linux Mint. I know, I know: it's Debian, you've probably got many Linux User thoughts about it. But several folks were like "what will I suggest to the normie's now?" Mint. Get them on Mint, it's easy, well supported, and rarely gives me trouble.
Plus, they're not doing war crimes (that I know of!)
I have mixed successes with Mint but when it works and when it's on well supported hardware it is a nice convenient distro. I hesitate to suggest it because I've recommended it to people who had a horrible time with it.
It's so hard to recommend distros.
I guess I won't be recommending Fedora anymore. Holy shit.
Is there anything else that has smooth installation, vanilla GNOME, and a good balance of stability and updates? I stopped distro hopping after I found Fedora because it was perfect for me 
As far as traditional style distros, I have always been impressed with OpenSuse Tumbleweed when I've needed like polished "corporate ready" distro.
They build and maintain the distros and build tools etc. In particular OpenSuse was the first distro I used that offered to set up BTRFS filesystem snapshots and rollback support as part of the GUI installer. A lot of corpo / consultancy money goes into keeping it competitive and fairly slick. Same as Redhat really.
Use Ubuntu or stay on Mint. (really, they are fine, I have been around long enough for when the hyped distro for new users was Mint instead of Ubuntu). No one hypes the stuff that works like OpenSUSE (well, someone mentioned it to you, think it's a good distro but they are EU Red Hat).
While I'm not all that surprised I'm upset nonetheless.
A real shame. I do think there are other OSes with the same level of polish as Fedora, but not ones as "normie-friendly" to recommend to people.
It may come across as piling on now that there's blood in the water, but quality control in Fedora has slipped recently. The update to 43 caused me some mild inconvenience (compared to a seamless experience in the past) and when my brother did it this week we ended up reinstalling, only to discover TWO bugs in the installation process (one caused by improper handling of Btrfs subvolumes, one caused by a bug somewhere in the nouveau-mesa-Gtk pipeline, neither with useful error messages).
These recent experiences have given me some reservations aside from the politics of IBM/Red Hat.
So, which distro should I switch to from Fedora?
I switched for the same reason long ago and I only used it because it was more up to date than Debian. Now I use Solus. It's a curated rolling release with a weekly cycle. Pretty good so far, not much issues.
Do you use your computer for anything obscure or interesting?
Are you trying to do enthusiastic linux nerd stuff or do you want something that just works and is (relatively, hopefully) easy?
Non-archive link for those that struggle - https://www.dlt.com/sites/default/files/documents/2025-01/ve-compress-the-kill-cycle-detail-693397pr-202402-en_3.pdf
Ugh. I use Fedora, which I'll probably keep doing for now. But I'll stop showing it any support or helping with code at all. This shit is unfortunately inevitable when a profit motive enters.
I use Arch btw
It never sat well with me that Red Hat was owned by IBM. This shouldn't be surprising given one of IBM's clients in the 40s.
I won't switch my big PC off bazzite yet, but I have a thinkpad running Fedora I could switch to Arch to finally try out. Heck, it could probably get away with vanilla debian
I have mostly used Fedora derivatives and NixOS over the last few years. I resent corporate involvement in Linux but I accepted it as the cost of top-tier support and maintenance. I’d just avoid the worst offenders, like Ubuntu. However with all of the military industrial ties coming to light, with Red Hat doing this shit alongside its government work, and Nix having ties to Anduril, I’m giving up corporate distros completely. And with systemd capitulating and adding supporting code for the age-verification legislation, I’m looking to get away from that too. I don’t mean to fear monger, systemd and distros including it don’t have age verification or attestation yet, but they’re clearly working towards it.
I would love to use Auxolotl and Lix to keep things declarative and deterministic, but they just aren’t ready yet. Migrating my PCs to Artix this week, and my server to Devuan. Gonna do my configuration with Ansible to retain a sense of declarative config. These projects have their own problems but they’re much more dedicated to resisting surveillance and protecting user sovereignty, which is a must for me.
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