Liberal members vote in favour of age restrictions for social media, AI chatbots (www.cbc.ca)

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[-] runsmooth@kopitalk.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'm still in the camp that thinks this is a push by the ad and marketing companies to improve their targeting.

The world is savvy to invasions of privacy, and many users probably choose ad and tracking blockers of various kinds. I agree the kids need to be educated about this kind of targeting and manipulation, but I'm not sure another booze er...social media prohibition solves any problem.

As Citizen Lab points out, there's big money and serious players behind all that targeting and surveillance. Why contribute to it?

https://kopitalk.net/c/canada/p/364736/kids-groups-say-they-didnt-know-openai-was-behind-their-child-safety-coalition

https://citizenlab.ca/research/analysis-of-penlinks-ad-based-geolocation-surveillance-tech/

[-] we_all_live_in_a_capital_i@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is also writing about this. The only way to prove age is to prove identity. Everyone's. How do I use SocMed without having to prove my age too? When I walk into a bar, no one takes my name or copies my ID and stores it in a system. It is also right-wing governments that (usually) push this, because they want to crush free speech. They want to chill opposition and to know who is criticizing them.

[-] runsmooth@kopitalk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Canadians are being subjected to a new round of psychological operations on this very issue, and the Liberals are being lobbied to hell and back on the subject given how the news is pushing this.

We're not new to the issue either. In Calgary the public reaction to a mall's directory and map kiosk allegedly tracking age and gender data of people walking by was largely negative. American interests are trying to massage this back into the public consciousness.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4355444/chinook-mall-calgary-facial-recognition-technology/

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

At this point crushing free speech is not limited by political spectrum.

[-] username_1@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago

Orwell: Liberalism is restrictions.

[-] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

Australia, Greece, Indonesia, France and Portugal have bans. Denmark, Norway, Brazil and Canada are considering it.

[-] username_1@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

North Korea doesn't have such bans :)

[-] ag10n@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

North Korea doesn’t have social media

[-] wraekscadu@vargar.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well, how would I know that Kim Jong Un is the master of goon then?

[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

Bet ya this is being pushed by online gambling

[-] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Not against, but FOR. They wanna get em' young. I'm willing to bet that we aren't far away from seeing tobacco companies starting to fight to have indoor smoking bans lifted and tobacco advertising to be more permitted and aggressive.

Some rollbacks against tobacco have happened in New Zealand. Some of the strongest legislation against smoking ever enact was repealed a while ago. Not because it was seen as excessive or too hard on smokers, but entirely due to lobbying by the tobacco lobby.

[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

[-] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Good, make them kiddos work to find out how to use social media before they are “of age.”

Make the kiddos have at least some difficulties before ChatGPT does their homework.

[-] Noja@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

The kids after you ban AI chatbots: I used the customer service AI chatbot to do my homework. Kids are smarter than you. That this is just a blatantly obvious way to force ID verification on everyone.