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submitted 4 hours ago by ryujin470@fedia.io to c/technology@beehaw.org

Mozilla are leaning even more into AI, with the announcement today of Thunderbolt - their open-source and self-hostable AI client.

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago

People, please stop shooting the messenger. Please.

With that out of the way: I wish Mozilla didn't waste so much money on chasing the latest trend of the season, and instead used it for its main products. Including Thunderbird. The one asking for donations.

Some years from now Thunderbolt will likely pop up in this list, of abandoned Mozilla products. Because it isn't the result of Mozilla finding a niche to create an AI product to benefit users; it's simply execs chasing the latest trend.

*Beehaw users are likely not seeing this, but this post has a bunch of downvotes.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 3 points 55 minutes ago

Neither your comment nor the post have a lot of down votes and I'm not on beehaw

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

My comment doesn't, but the OP does. Four downvotes in Beehaw is quite a lot, given the local users don't downvote. Same thread is in the negatives in one of the cross-posts even if it's on-topic.

And, like. I get why people would react negatively towards the product itself, but I don't think it's good tone to react like this towards the news being shared, you know?

[-] GandalfDG@beehaw.org 22 points 3 hours ago
[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 2 hours ago

You're not required to use it.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 6 points 1 hour ago

I see your account is just here to troll/harass people who don't love AI too, but we're witnessing Mozilla burning goodwill and capital for no apparent reason.

Please don't tell people to stick their heads in the sand.

[-] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago

So I read there article and all I can think is....

Run AI with their choice of models: as long as it's on our approved list and you pay for it.

Connect to systems and data: Uses your data to train our system so we can sell your knowledge to your competitors.

Automate workflows and recurring tasks: Completely removes your ability to make decisions and understand what is happening.

Work seamlessly across devices with native applications for Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS, and Android: Until we decide it doesn't, or maybe it will only be window. Either way you've lost control.

Maintain security with self-hosted deployment, optional end-to-end encryption, and device-level access controls: While allowing us to monitor your whole work flow remotely and monetize everything you know.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 2 hours ago

Where are you getting these limitations from? They're not in that article, and I went to the project's page to double check and they're not there either.

Connect any ACP-compatible agent or any model with an OpenAI-compatible API

At this point that's basically anything. Including all the popular open frameworks fro running local AIs.

Automate workflows and recurring tasks: Completely removes your ability to make decisions and understand what is happening.

What? This is like setting a cron job. Does cron remove your ability to make decisions or understand what is happening?

Work seamlessly across devices with native applications for Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS, and Android: Until we decide it doesn't, or maybe it will only be window.

It's open source, like the other projects Mozilla maintains. Do you apply this "they could take it away from us at any time!" Concern to Firefox as well?

Maintain security with self-hosted deployment, optional end-to-end encryption, and device-level access controls: While allowing us to monitor your whole work flow remotely and monetize everything you know.

Any source for this? Seriously, I know there's a lot of anti-AI sentiment around here but you're hallucinating worse than Gemini.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago

The bad news: MZLA (Thunderbird's maker) is all-in on AI

The good news: They aren't using your Thunderbird donations to build this. It's funded by the Mozilla Foundation, which has been throwing money at every random AI startup it sees. Including one that wants to help electricians wire your home.

this post was submitted on 16 Apr 2026
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