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the footage of her being paraded through the streets of gaza is certainly one of the more disturbing videos
I'm confused. Is she not the person in the video where Hamas militants were sitting on a body in the bed of a pickup while people spat on it and slapped it? Or is that a different hostage?
no thats her
Well, at least it is now sure, that she was dead already at the time when her body was paraded around. Her mother said in an interview that she must have been one of the first that got killed with a headshot…
This is so strange to me, “Louk’s death was announced after forensic examiners found a bone fragment from her skull.”
NBC News says “She was one of more than 250 young Israelis murdered by the terrorist group at the festival.”
So many questions. Why of 250 people is the media focused on her? also the found a skull fragment and knew it was hers? is that possible?
Another article said she was beheaded. Seems like a lot of different accounts of what happened.
I’m pretty sure there was increased focus on her due to how heinous her experience was. She was filmed having been beaten and stripped in the back of a truck being driven by chanting terrorists. I mean it doesn’t really get any worse. Others has the same experience but hers was caught on camera very clearly. That is a big differentiator.
a truck being driven by chanting terrorists.
And also people of Gaza cheering them on and spitting on her.
They can recover DNA from body parts and match it from records, or family members can also help with identification with DNA samples. Definitely possible.
She was a foreigner and arrived in Israel to attend the rave. She was also paraded through the streets of Gaza, one of the first viral videos that came out from the recent conflict.
It calls her Israeli-German in the article. Is she foreign or not?
Half-foreign. That’s enough to generate a higher interest in her compared to full ‘locals’
Well yeah, it means Germany can get involved if they want.
Listen, my country's fine, but we don't do anything until it's way to late. So don't count on ol' Germany.
She lived in Israel. She was an Israeli. Her grandparents live in Germany and she sometimes come to visit. But she was local.
She’s getting more coverage because she’s German (so western media already cares more about her than missing middle eastern peeps) and she was attractive which makes all news sources interested
This is the sad honest truth.
The truth is that her mother contacted media to help her to get the government to do something, when she thought she might still be alive.
They found the decapitated head of her and analyzed a bone fragment - this is at least what the Israeli president Herzog said in an interview with a German interviewer from BILD on YouTube.
Yes, BILD is normally not a source I would use because of their failures, but this seems to be a valid interview by Mr. Ronzheimer. I am still searching for additional sources.
Herzog's statement is pure nonsense, as a full head would be analyzed on its own, he claims it took so long because there were so many mangled bodies, and her head was visible in the video that spawned the focus on her. Unless they found a cache of murdered people in Gaza that somehow hasn't become a story of its own and then bashed her skull in to get a skull fragment rather than taking DNA samples from her head or body, there's no way all his claims fit together. Her family's account makes sense. She was killed with a shot to the head near the festival, leaving behind a skull fragment, then her body (with head minus fragment) was paraded through Gaza.
It might be a valid interview, just with someone who was lying for propaganda purposes.
News is all about attention and clicks. You're way more likely to click on an article about a hot chick than a random normie.
I was confused by this yesterday. Seems like the New York Post claims she was beheaded, citing Isaac Herzog as a source, but after reading it on more outlets seems that they found a skull fragment at the festival area, so not in Gaza. And no they did not find her skull. In fact it seems that her body at least made it to Gaza and her mother had received footage that places her in a Gaza hospital.
Not sure who would benefit from ruining this girl's memory with propaganda... Oh wait.
Confusing during wartime. Who would have thought.
Sex sells. Her picture gets clicks.
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