Really glad I decided to switch to GrapheneOS. My next phone will be a Motorola for sure.
motorola makes great phone. I remember my 1st Android phone, after years on iOS, was the Moto Z Play. That thing can last a week with light usage, or 3 days with medium usage on a single charge. Also remember those moto mods? Motorola had like speaker mod and even a mini projector that you can just snap on the phone.
So what do we do when they start making it harder and harder to install graphene?
If the rest-of-the-world can get its head out of its ass, a fork of AOSP with an open governance and a commitment to opensource and open platform, so that every one benefits from it. You wouldn't need that much from each country to get more resources on that AOSP-bis than Google will ever be able to pour on its homebrew version.
You make a rule that public service can only buy devices using AOSP-bis based systems (or even better: states choose their own AOSP distros) and quickly, Google has no choice but to follow your version, not the other way around.
I am so endlessly angry at this, I actually switched banks because my old bank's app didn't work on a degoogled phone.
This is the kind of action we need to take. Im proud of you for making the change. Taking the time. Making the effort to say nope fuck you and fuck that.
Yeah what this guy said
Out of curiosity, what bank? If you don't mind answering. I'm heavily thinking about Graphine but it didn't occur to me that it would break compatibility with non-Google apps.
it was never your phone to begin with.
Please consider donating to PostmarketOS to build up a pure mobile Linux alternative that is completely free of Google's influence. It's the best option we have.
My latest phone is a Fairphone 6 with e/OS preinstalled, so it came degoogled and easily repairable out of the box. I intend to keep it for at least a decade. I cant imagine a feature I would be willing to upgrade for, so I'll probably keep it longer than that.
The fucked up thing with phones is the locked boot loaders. Locked boot loaders should not exist because this seriously restricts the driver and OS development.
Hoping that Graphene Motorola partnership ends up making Graphene some really well supported target for bank/finance apps for those that make that a part of their required features for a phone. I can live with Firefox. Many seemingly can't
Vanadium on GrapheneOS will probably be what most people go with for website compatibility. Assuming they aren't switching to GrapheneOS for the main aspects but just want to get away from google
Fuck this. My next device will be a Fairphone with Murena OS.
what's that?
It's a phone made by Fairphone that runs on Murena OS.
I know about Fairphone but haven't heard of. MurenaOS
what's the move? get "ahead" of it and get a Fairphone? I am not entirely sure when the Graphene OS Motorola phones come out and who knows the legal implications that will have.
GrapheneOS doesn't give a fuck
I am as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!
This deal is getting worse all the time.
GrapheneOS would be great, if it would just support 1000x the hardware it does now. With the extremely limited hardware it does support it's practically as good as useless for the vast majority of Android users
I'd switch tomorrow, would if I could
Most hardware doesn't support the fundamental security requirements of GrapheneOS, so that will never happen.
Look into things like /e/OS or Nothing Phone on the Android side, and the various Linux options (Jellyfish OS is, I think, the most advanced).
Realistically, how many people bought an Android phone because it was open? I doubt most people even considered that, or know that it may have been true. Most people who buy Android phones do it because they don't like iPhones, or don't want to spend the amount necessary to get one. It's just the "other brand of phone".
If the message is "this is what they're taking away from you!" it's helpful if the people know what they had first.
Buying a phone is not exactly a choice.
That’s not why 99% of people buy an Android phone. They buy it because it’s the only alternative to iPhones, and they start at significantly cheaper prices than iPhones.
The people that buy Android phones for their “openness” are the extreme minority.
You aren't wrong. Only minor quibble is that a reason many of us use android is that it's been more open. Apple treats its customers like shit, and locking their hardware and software down like android is about to move even further toward, is all part of that overall contempt apple shows for customers. I would guess that if apple didn't lock their ecosystem so tight, Google may not have planned to make this change. They've probably been talking for years about how they can do it if apple gets away with it. They finally decided it was going to be worth pissing off a segment of users. Fucking assholes.
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