Weight gain as adult increases cancer risk by up to five times, research shows (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 2 points 1 week ago

Hate these studies. They're always just based on correlations, and ignores the elephant in the room: class. How wealthy you are, how wealthy the area you live in, those factors have the highest impact on health outcomes, but the mainstream media (which is owned by the ruling class) will never be honest about that. So they just find correlations that let them blame poor people for having shitty diets.

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

You hate these studies because they don't specifically endorse your world view?

Most of the time, these studies are looking for the mechanical causes of the problem, not the socio-economic conditions that led to those mechanisms being present. So if smoking or getting fat increases cancer risk, that will be true regardless of what's in your bank account.

Also, these are cancer researchers. Dealing with the structural poverty that leads to the adverse health outcomes is way outside their expertise.

[-] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 3 points 1 week ago

Without doxing myself, I have expertise in this topic. It's not a matter of my world view, it's a matter of science and communication.

It is very unlikely that human adiposity leads to increased cancer risk directly. It is correlational, not causational. Human adiposity itself, isolated from compounding factors, has a complex relationship with health outcomes, and not at all the linear correlation where more fat = more bad that the mainstream likes to pretend.

We know that certain foods, particularly animal products, especially cheaper animal products, lead to cancers, heart disease, etc. This is most likely explanation for the results in this study. But yet again we have yet another study uselessly pointing out a correlation which is unhelpful for actually solving public health issues and continues to encourage the passing of the blame to those in society who have the least responsibility for their situation.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Jokes on cancer. Im already fat. No weight gain likely.

[-] hcf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

None 👏 of this 👏 shit matters 👏 if food 👏is unaffordable👏 and healthcare 👏 bankrupts your 👏 household.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Eating less 👏 always costs 👏 less than 👏 eating more.

Does this make the point more clearly? I think it looks pretty dumb, but you do you.

The organic food industry has done great damage to Western society by making people think you need to buy fresh organic food to eat healthy, when canned/jarred/frozen conventional food is absolutely fine as well, for a fraction of the cost.

Yes, you will need to spend some time preparing it, unlike fastfood. But it's MUCH cheaper, less calorie dense and contains more micronutrients.

[-] hcf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I was making a reference to inflation and overall food prices as a result of the closing of the Strait of Hormuz, not the cost of organic vs canned foods.

We're way past that, at this point.

If everything in my nearest grocery store costs $5, and fuel costs $5 a gallon, and the cost of everything else is going up, then I really don't have much of a choice of where I get my calories.

Making ends meet is extremely difficult right now for a lot of people. I don't think it's helpful to have a response like, "but have the poors tried eating less?"

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In the context of the article, I can only assume your point was "healthy food is expensive, that's why people are obese".

I don't think it's helpful to have a response like, "but have the poors tried eating less?"

No, my response was that obese people eating less will leave them with more money and less health issues. Eating canned/frozen vegetables is both less expensive and healthier than premade foods, and lasts longer so you can take fewer trips, saving more money.

Btw, kudos for deleting that other post! I'm glad you decided to actually read my post.

[-] Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

I just want fruit with actual flavor that makes me want to eat it than the tasteless shit we get now in the US

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

then go to farmers markets.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

Those are more expensive in a lot of places.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They just buy the stuff the grocery stores don't want. That's been common for a while. That's why you can buy tons of it cheap but it goes bad fast.

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

lol what.

i grew up on that food dude. it's nasty and bad for you. what are you smoking. most of it is loaded with sodium preservatives, and other chemicals. is it better than not eating vegetables at all? sure, but it has lots of nasty shit in it.

fresh food is superior for you in every way. other than it's convenience and cost.

i was SHOCKED in college when I found out vegetables can taste good, instead of being disgusting mushy nastiness.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

it's nasty and bad for you.

Example number one. I agree it's not as tasty as fresh, but often times the canned and frozen veggies have MORE vitamins and minerals than fresh, simply because the fresh one has had more time to break down.

most of it is loaded with sodium preservatives

You can just look at the labels and see that isn't true. Hell, you don't even need to get up, just check out Walmart brand canned or veggies online and look at the label.

and other chemicals.

Everything is a chemical. This is a meaningless propaganda phrase from the organic food playbook. You are literally proving my point.

is it better than not eating vegetables at all? sure

Uhhh yeah, if you can't afford fresh vegetables, or its not available near you, eating frozen/jarred/canned is absolutely fine. It's not bad for you in any way, and far superior to premade crap.

i was SHOCKED in college when I found out vegetables can taste good, instead of being disgusting mushy nastiness.

It's nice to hear that you have the option of fresh fruits and veggies. I also take that for granted, but its important to remember many people don't have that option. And they are just as susceptible to propaganda as you, so they don't buy frozen or canned vegetables because it's vaguely "bad for you" somehow in some undefined way. And they end up getting obese because they eat stuff that's much worse.

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