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[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 77 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Dude is almost directly quoting Russian state media and doesn't even realize he is just parroting a narrative*.

This is why you don't listen to state media, kids. If you hear something on repeat, over and over, you eventually begin to believe those words are true, without realizing it. Confirmation bias quickly kills any remainder of independent thought.

It's a nasty process. If you have ever seen someone have their rational thought destroyed by MAGA, it's the same thing. Rational discussions are pointless: They always degrade into pre-canned political talking points, whataboutisms and blaming others.

* I have often wondered if he parrots misleading narratives with purpose. ml is a perfect recruiting space for trolls and does function well enough to amplify fake or misleading news, after all.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 33 points 5 days ago
[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 17 points 5 days ago

Yep. Could be parroting Russian state narrative because he's getting paid by the Russian state to do so.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.org 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You are giving too much credit here. It reads to me more like someone having fallen for key points of Russian propaganda but not fully yet to the complete package. Especially regarding Maidan. This was a sustained mass movement, against the risk of being hurt or even killed. We ard talking about actual supporters in the millions. Large movements like this will attract a multitude of groups, also extreme ones just ad well as false flag contribters by the regime struggling for survival. Calling the entire movement far right is so far detached from reality it is ludicrous. Did the US support it? Likely. Did they manufacture that revolution? Ridiculous and beyond anything the CIA could accomplish at this scale.

Just compare it to the Russian "uprisings" in the Donbas etc. Russia had to send its own men dressing up as Ukrainians and never managed anything resembling even remotely an actual public movement. That's how manufactured uprisings look like. They only got supportive "protests" in larger sizes after taking over complete power and turning the region into a stalinist style puppet state, with torture, persecution etc.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

when you're in the cult - you are in the cult

ain't no other way

oddly enough this person had loads of good will with the creation of lemmy to gently push socialism and commieness through the fediverse

the radicalisation is too addictive i guess

[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I'm not sure if it's just a Dessalines thing or a Marxist-Leninist thing but communists (tankies specifically) tend have auth-leaning tendencies (which they will defend to the death). A lot of their views seem reactionary to just be anti-west in general. Let's support Russia because it's "against the west"!.

Though they are for state power anyway so this should be a natural consequence.

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[-] hubobes@piefed.europe.pub 28 points 4 days ago

Yeah thanks for this post, I was stupid enough to engage with them on a similar topic and after like 20-30 comments where they ignored evidence, lied about things that have never actually happened, blatantly misconstrued evidence from completely unrelated events and moved their goal posts so far that they might as well be in another stadium they simply removed all my comments so nobody would be able to see the evidence showing how wrong they were.

Pretty stupid of me and since lemmy.ml has gone down the drain content wise I love the idea of simply blocking the instance, as stupid as it sounds, did never think about it so far.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I can't even keep em on topic for 2 comments in a row. On a post making fun of "two things can be bad" as falling for propaganda, someone pointed out the outright nazi shit putin says. Someone comes back with literal "whatabout Ukraine."

Does that mean one sides nazism justified another? Or that they actually do think both sides can have negative qualities at once? Hell if I know, when I asked they said that's a strawman and didn't even explain what the whataboutism meant.

[-] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I've seen it! It got deleted? Not even surprised. You did a good job anyway. Thx.

[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Dessalines is a fascist, you say things they don't like and they will just ban you and delete your comments instead of engaging with your comments.

I have made it a point to block any community they moderate.

[-] halvar@lemy.lol 10 points 4 days ago

I find it so incredibly funny that the graph is basically "Yeah all opinions different from mine are pure evil, while mine is well-learned and righteous as always."

Not even an attempt at nuance.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.org 2 points 3 days ago

Also, my opinion is identical to the Russian propaganda.

Let's be honest, when they say you're banned for being impolite, it really means you say things they don't like they cannot argue against.

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[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 22 points 5 days ago

I just picked up a permanent ban there too for rule 2.

[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 21 points 5 days ago

Did you receive your CIA paycheck tho? Mine has been held up again. I'm thinking of establishing a CIA shill union.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago

At least you got paid, they'll do it for free!

They’re better than Soros was.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

Tankies gonna tank

https://youtu.be/GAuShNaT7OY

The Grand Tour explains what the Russians are doing to quietly steal land from Georgia. Literally moving the border markers at night.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.org 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I am fairly new to Lemmy and was slightly bewildered by the relentless Tankie propaganda going on. I am not talking about left criticism of capitalism but full blown glorification of Russian and Chinese imperialism, justification of wars of aggression and denial or justification of war crimes etc.

Then I figured out to block the .ml instance and things have gone mostly back to normal. I am still a bit uneasy about having to block the instance of the main developer but so what ...

[-] cm0002@infosec.pub 6 points 4 days ago

I'd also recommend blocking the other 2 instances of the Tankie triad, Hexbear and lemmygrad. They're like .ml, but much worse, .ml tries to do their shenanigans with subtlety. The rest of the triad....not so much lol

[-] grinka@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah blocking .ml makes browsing lemmy soooo much better

[-] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 21 points 5 days ago

I had some interaction with them on an .ml post today, which i can't respond to due to the ban hammer (imagine that).

There's reality, there's perspective, and there's spin.

But then there's blatant lies and propaganda.

That's how they roll at the .ml

[-] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

anti-US = understands the core of international geopolitics. got it 🙄

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 11 points 5 days ago

SaltFreeBae just keeps proving that he's got absolutely no understanding of geopolitics, and that he lives in a fantasy world where half of reality is whatever he makes it up to be on the spot.

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

A significant portion of the blame for this conflict can be put on the USA, but you'd have to be delusional to make excuses for Russia. Genuinely who in their right mind thinks Putin is a good guy? Or Russian oligarchs? They're just as bad as American presidents and oligarchs, except Russian [wanna-be] Empire is fairly weak, so it's not as big a threat as the US Empire.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.org 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Please elaborate how exactly the "significant portion of the blame" for the US comes to be. Also please explain how attributing "significant portion of the blame" to the US does at least not partially "excuse" Russia.

And while you are at it, please explain how the Russian regime that openly states that its ambition is the destruction of the Ukranian nation (which amounts to genocide) and is also engaging towards this goal in the areas it occupies, is merely equally as bad or as much of a threat (or even less so) in the Ukranian context as the US regime.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

I was about to downvote this post

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