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cross-posted from: https://piefed.zip/c/foss/p/1548253/we-are-trying-to-grow-a-new-foss-collaboration-community

A few of us have put together a forum and wiki in the hopes to build a community focused on collaboration for various open source and creative commons projects. We build the platform a few months ago, but haven't done the greatest job of actually spreading the word and building up the active members, so I'm posting in another attempt to try and spread the word to establish some activity for our community.

In short, the idea behind our website is to:

  1. Build a community that is based on genuine connections and collaboration. Our community is a forum and wiki, and hopes to steer towards a slower (and possibly more old school) type of internet - and away from some communities that are mostly article reposts and memes.
  2. Libre/foss/creative commons/etc - we want to help generate community that can come together to work on projects that benefit everyone, and in a way, push back against some of the urges of capitalism.
  3. Involvement - we want to welcome everyone, but the idea is to eventually create a culture where people are not afraid to contribute small things to many projects. We want to motivate individuals to grow the foss ecosystem without feeling like they need to commit heavily to any one project. Projects can get rekindled and improved on even if others have abandoned it.

Overall, we have a big vision for the community - but at this point we are just trying to get it off the ground and are looking for members to sign up and start some discussions to help us grow.

The goal is to create a community that is able to stand on its own, and outlast myself or any of the other admins. And essentially become a commons space, with the current admins simply acting as a steward that can be replaced if they need/want to step down. In that respect, we hope to get some members and allow the community to grow and evolve the platform to fit the needs of the community.

While modern social media has its place, we felt that the current standing of online collaborative spaces were limiting and often highly niche. We hope that maybe we can grow a space for people of various skills, backgrounds, and ideas can come together to create a creative and productive space - and make some lasting connections as well.

I know this post got a bit lengthy, and many will probably skim over it, but if it's something that sounds interesting to you I would really appreciate it if you came over and checked it out, signed up, and maybe help us get some discussions going to help us grow our community. And of course, if you would be so kind as to helping us spread the word, it would be greatly appreciated - as we spent so much time working on building the site, but none of us are all that great at actually "marketing" the community to actually find new members.

Our forum is: forum.UnfinishedProjects.net

And our wiki, where we hope people will actually build out various projects together is located at:

UnfinishedProjects.net

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[-] francisco_1844@discuss.online 15 points 4 days ago

I like the idea, but wonder if a lemmy community may have been just as good. The main friction I think many of us will have is "one more place to go to". Also, I think the founders likely should step up to create content initially otherwise you run into

  • New user visits
  • Nothing here to see.. I like the idea; will bookmark to check later
  • Later never comes and the person just forgets about the project

In my opinion the founders need to create some, even if minimal, value for new users until there is a critical mass.

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 7 points 4 days ago

All super valid points, and I agree. I really appreciate the feedback :)

As for the "one more place to go", I agree that I hate having more logins and such, but it felt worthwhile to have a dedicated space its own if we wanted to build a community that was more closely knit. The structure of a traditional forum allows discussions to last and not get buried. A small compromise is that the forum is federated, so each category can be accessed from the fediverse.

As for initial content - that was the plan, and we will slowly be working on it, but sadly I burnt myself out on actually creating the platform and needed a break - and now I am reattempting, but am currently in the process of IRL things that are preventing me actually working heavily on content/value for initial landing. But hopefully we will slowly be able to get actual content up to prevent the issue you described.

TLDR: I completely agree with you, and hopefully we will address the content issue eventually. In the meantime, I figured I would try to spread the word and hope a few individuals might be willing to add their projects or ideas.

[-] francisco_1844@discuss.online 6 points 4 days ago

it's not a sprint, but a marathon. Rest, recharge and then come back.. For example you could do posts in Lemmy of summary of an article in your site or just put link to article in your site, once things are moving.

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 3 points 4 days ago

That is good advice, thanks. I will try that out.

And yes, I constantly remind myself to take it slow. . . But I seem to rarely listen to myself haha.

[-] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Some forums already federate with lemmy. More will in the future. Setting up email notifications means you don't have to visit multiple sites each day.

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 6 points 4 days ago

Ours is federated too :)

[-] francisco_1844@discuss.online 4 points 4 days ago

How can the forums be accessed from lemmy? Do you have info anywhere on that?

[-] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 6 points 4 days ago

This forum in particular already displays how you can.

See this for example: !announcements@forum.unfinishedprojects.net

[-] infeeeee@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

You have to search for that. E.g. this is a post on their forum via lemmy.world: https://lemmy.world/post/43610473

[-] zigmhount@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 days ago

I want to love this, and I just signed up, but I think I fail to see this platform's differentiator: why would I go there rather than any of the other communities/forums that already exist? For example, I develop a tool for music performance/production in Pure Data, what will I find on UnfinishedProjects that I wouldn't find on LinuxMusicians or Pure Data's forum? I tinker with Arduino, why would I go to UnfinishedProjects rather than an Arduino forum? I'm slowly building my own answer as I write this, but IMO that's what this post and the welcome page should be answering clearly: Why join this, rather than the thousand other options?

Also, as far as I understand, the wiki is meant to be an easy-to-browse directory of all projects that may already be discussed somewhere in the forum, but I see no clear connection between them. If I find an interesting project in the wiki, shouldn't there be a simple way to find and join existing conversations on that topic? And the other way around, it would be nice to build a wiki page from information entered in the forum itself. I'm just thinking that any extra step in creating and finding stuff will slow down the growth of the platform.

Apologies if I just missed existing features, I've only spent 20min on it and I'm trying to give constructive first-impression feedback :)

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You bring up some valid concerns about the connection between the wiki and forum - and it's something we were bouncing around on how to best implement. My guess is that as our community grows, we can better adjust and adapt to find the optimal solution.

As of now, the premise is to have a wiki page for each project that acts as documentation and the actual "home" of the project - as it also allows people to contribute with version history and etc. meanwhile the forum "projects" category will act as the platform for discussion and networking. I will be the first to admit that the implementation may very well be flawed, but is meant to act as a starting point in which the community can nudge the platform to evolve in the direction that will suit the majority.

As for the distinction of this platform and others, I go a bit more into depth on the wiki about pages and such, but I'm short it's that:

  1. We are not a niche community. We want to bring people from different backgrounds together to collaborate and network. (Eg: GitHub is mostly programmers)
  2. We encourage small contributions. We want to remove the stress and commitment of needing to dive all in to a single project, and instead foster the community itself, so that people can contribute small things to multiple projects, bolstering the open source and creative commons as a whole, rather than any one single project. (Hopefully that makes sense.)
  3. The goal is to have this platform/community be "community owned/managed/etc". Granted I am currently paying for th server and domain name, and someone has to have the "keys" to the system to protect sensitive data - but I back up everything to Codeberg so that if I die, disappear, etc... another individual can simply reupload the data and start another site. (A few trusted admins have full backup capabilities as well). In addition to just backups, I want the community to actually have individuals step up and take more active roles - have a group of stewards of the commons, rather than owners or founders. How this will work in practice I am not yet entirely sure...but the underlying intentions are that ownership of th community should belong to the collective, with individuals acting as stewards of the platform in the best interest of the majority.

Hope that answers the questions? Also, thank you so much for the thoughtful feedback :)

PS: if you've joined, I would appreciate it if you would post on the forum or upload your projects...as the more activity we get, the easier it will be to get new members on board and engaged.

[-] zigmhount@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 13 hours ago

Thanks for your answer! I totally understand that you need to start somewhere to get started and that it will evolve from there. Cheers for making the first step!

Your answer to the expected use cases is also pretty much what came to my mind as I was writing the question. A couple of examples I though of were e.g. I develop an app and I'm looking for visual artists to improve the design, or for music producers to make a soundtrack for my game, or for testers to give me real use feedback, all of which are indeed hard to find in the niche tool-focused communities.

I'll try to take the time to write about my projects in the forum, point taken. It's always hard for me to consider my projects as being good enough for sharing, but I think they may benefit from a fresh eye.

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

push back against some of the urges of capitalism.

On piefed.zip?????

[-] uuj8za@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago
[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Same as I was going to ask. I am not familiar with any ne s reference piefed - granted I'm probably out of the loop since I'm not really a religious user of social sites.

[-] uuj8za@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

Does UnfinishedProjects have a stance on AI? Are AI tutorials OK to post? Is AI slopware OK to post? Are AI answers to skill exchange posts OK to post?

Might be worth mentioning that somewhere on the site.

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Copy paste from another comment asking about LLM/AI use:

For a more detailed writeup on our current views: https://unfinishedprojects.net/wiki/About/Ethics

But in short, we don't want to dictate the parameters for each project, and want each project to set their own requirements. We do have a "notice"/"banner" on the wiki that we ask people to utilize for each project to be clear and transparent about their requirements for AI/LLM use in each project.

[-] uuj8za@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago

This is an area where we want to be honest: we don't have clean answers, and we are not going to pretend otherwise.

AI tools including language models, image generators, and code assistants, are genuinely useful. They can help someone start a project they wouldn't have had the skills to begin otherwise, prototype ideas quickly, and finish projects that might otherwise be abandoned. Even the UnfinishedProjects platform likely wouldn't have come to fruition without the assistance of LLMs.

At the same time, the ethical picture is genuinely complicated. Large AI models have been trained on vast amounts of creative work scraped from the internet, including work released under open licenses, without meaningful consent from the people who made it. The legal landscape regarding AI is unresolved and messy at the time of writing. In addition, there are broader ethical concerns regarding the impact of data centers on local communities, the environment, and the economy. In short, the ethical considerations are vast and widely recognized.

The current landscape has left the broader community divided on the ethical and legal implications of using AI in their work. There is no single policy that we can implement on our platform to align with everyone's views, and we believe the best way forward is to allow each project to determine its own boundaries regarding AI.

Individual projects set their own AI policies. We do not mandate a platform-wide rule on AI use, because the right answer genuinely varies by project type, contributor values, and context. Every project is encouraged to state its policy explicitly using the Template:AIBanner at the top of its project page. By being direct and upfront about AI use, you provide transparency for each contributor, allowing them to make an informed decision about whether to participate right from the start, rather than uncovering that information later.

The quality bar does not lower just because a tool helped. In our view, pasting unreviewed and/or an untested output is not a contribution. Reviewing, editing, testing, and taking responsibility for the work — that is the contribution. The tool is just the tool.

We expect this area to keep evolving, and our thinking will evolve with it. As with the rest of our wiki, we expect these pages to grow as members bring more insights to the table and as the technological landscape shifts.

[-] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago

Neat, wish I could code to contribute. Not willing to submit ai slop, either.

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 8 points 4 days ago

We're trying to be more than just coding projects, and really any project that is not under a closed license.

Just as an example, a couple of us designed board games. It can be things even like world building, CAD projects, tinkering, craft blueprints, etc.

While FOSS is pretty much centered around coding (the "software" in FOSS) we want to build a community where people can collaborate on more than just code.

Not sure if that makes any difference or not, but I figured it was worth pointing out :) - either way, thanks for the interest!

[-] Aralakh@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This sounds cool, thanks for elaborating! I think my only concern is that it's on piefed :(

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Our platform is self hosted, not a piefed instance, but federated.

Also, I'm not tracking anything with piefed...is there some negative news about piefed?

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Projects need other skills, like translators and artists too.

[-] francisco_1844@discuss.online 4 points 4 days ago

On registration:

I consent to the collection and processing of my personal information on this website.

Understood...

I consent to receive digest and notification emails from this website.

This I suggest you change or indicate one can manage digest somewhere. I did not want to select that since I don't want digests, but it won't let me register otherwise. Also, just seems like a bad thing to request. That should be a setting, not a requirement.

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 3 points 4 days ago

This is part of NodeBB forum software, and settings in your user profile you can adjust what you receive. I think (unless I am mistaken, and I simply need to adjust the settings) that this is a blanket statement that covers the forum admins to adjust settings without violating consent. I will need to do some more research if this is even changeable on my end (both technically & legally).

On our end, we are hosting the nodeBB forum on a VPS, and are not doing any sort of telemetry or data gathering (except that information that nodeBB gathers for site usage data), and we don't send any digest emails (other than what the individual sets up in their profile settings that get auto sent through the software).

I know that doesn't necessarily fix the issue, but hope it at least clarifies it a little. I will look into this issue further though.

[-] francisco_1844@discuss.online 3 points 4 days ago

I suggest, if possible, just change the wording to make it clear one can opt out of emails after one logs in.

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Noted. Will add it to my to-do list. Thank you :)

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 2 points 4 days ago

@julian@community.nodebb.org is there any chance you might be able to clarify this? Is this the case, or am I mistaken?

[-] myrmidex@belgae.social 2 points 4 days ago

I will sign up as soon as I'm at home!

[-] UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Yay! You're the best ;)

If you have any projects or discussion to share, it would be much appreciated - as often the beginning stages are the hardest since there is not much content to interact with for new members

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