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African leaders are leaving two days of meetings with Russian President Vladimir Putin with little to show for their requests to resume a deal that kept grain flowing from Ukraine and to find a path to end the war there.

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[-] SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

Funny, I recall many people saying that Africa shouldn't bother getting involved and speaking out against russia as the war doesn't affect them.

[-] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago

The African leader apparently are not strong enough to speak up against Putin, as they are so deep in need of their private military companies. It is not even that the russian PMC are so great in logistics, equipment or strategy. It is just that the russian PMC are as ruthless and brutal as the african war lords who need them to butcher the people they deem to be enemies.

I think I will never in my lifetime see Africa as a free democratic continent, as long as autocratic/warmonger leader of african countries are cooperating with the lowest scum in the rest of the world. It is a match that will spiral that contintent (or at least those countries) further down the drain, but is continuing for 20-30 years some egomanic african leader to snort all the coke he wants, rape all the woman he wants and buy all the western luxus he wants. Nobody of them is interested in a positive long term goal for their nation or their people. They bleed their own people out and reject every transformation to a modern civil society. Homophobia might only be one ideology of many shackles, that bonds the sahel region to russia. The others are dehumanization, hate, lying, aggression, indoctrination, private gain, power, ...

[-] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Which African Leader? According to the article only a handful of leaders went as opposed to 2019

Fewer than 20 of Africa’s 54 heads of state or government attended the Russia summit, while 43 attended the previous gathering in 2019, reflecting concerns over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine even as Moscow seeks more allies on the African continent of 1.3 billion people

[-] glarf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Seriously, what a shit generalization of an entire CONTINENT.

[-] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I mean make no mistake, Africa has it's problems but change is certainly happening for the better in Africa from what I remember.

I mean if you want to talk about attacks on homosexuals, I can clearly recall Eastern Europeans attacking gay people in the 1990's, especially in Poland where it was the worst

While ahead of the 2015 Polish parliamentary election, the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party took an anti-migrant stance, in the run-up to the 2019 Polish parliamentary election the party has focused on countering Western "LGBT ideology".[67] Several Polish municipalities and four Voivodeships made so-called "LGBT-free zone" declarations, partly in response to the signing of a declaration in support of LGBTQ rights by Warsaw mayor Rafał Trzaskowski.[67][70] While only symbolic, the declared zones signal exclusion of the LGBT community. The right wing Gazeta Polska newspaper issued "LGBT-free zone" stickers to readers.[71] The Polish opposition and diplomats, including US ambassador to Poland Georgette Mosbacher, condemned the stickers.[72][73] The Warsaw district court ordered that distribution of the stickers should halt pending the resolution of a court case.[74] However Gazeta's editor dismissed the ruling saying it was "fake news" and censorship, and that the paper would continue distributing the sticker.[75] Gazeta continued with the distribution of the stickers, but modified the decal to read "LGBT Ideology-Free Zone".[74]

In August 2019, multiple LGBT community members have stated that they feel unsafe in Poland. Foreign funded NGO All Out organization launched a campaign to counter the attacks, with about 10,000 people signing a petition shortly after the campaign launch.[76] 2019 saw a rise of violence directed against Pride marches, including the attacks at the first Białystok Equality March[77][78] and a bombing attempt made at a Lublin march, stopped by the police.[79][80]

In the 2020 Polish presidential election, President Andrzej Duda focused heavily on LGBT issues, stating "LGBT is not people, it's an ideology, which is more harmful than Communism". He narrowly won re-election.[81][82] According to ILGA-Europe's 2020 report, Poland is ranked worst among European Union countries for LGBT rights.[83] On 7 August 2020, 47 people were arrested in Polish Stonewall mass arrest. Some of them were peacefully protesting the arrest of Margot, an LGBT activist, while others were passerby.[84] The Polish Ombudsman criticized human rights violations by the police

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history_in_Poland

And honestly, much of it is Russian influence, countries that were behind the Iron Curtain for so long have had a hard time adjusting to western values, and the wall only came down in 1989, within many peoples lifetime

[-] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

That commitment, with no details, follows Putin’s promise to start shipping 25,000 to 50,000 tons of grain for free to each of six African nations in the next three to four months — an amount dwarfed by the 725,000 tons shipped by the U.N. World Food Program to several hungry countries, African and otherwise, under the grain deal.

Jesus, 725,000 tons compared to 50, it's no wonder African Nations are not at all happy

Also it should be noted that only a handful of African leaders went, as opposed to back in 2019. African Nations are well aware it seems that backing Russia is a bad idea

I just wish they'd kick out China next, both Russia and China have had a terrible influence on Africa and have kept them in bondage for decades.

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