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[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In other news, researchers have discovered that the sky is blue.

I know that studies like this are important for validating things that would otherwise be taken for granted. They’re also useful in debates when people want actual proof. But at a certain point, you have to accept that the person you’re debating probably isn’t arguing in good faith and is only sealioning to wear you out.

[-] Shhalahr@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

Off topic, but I just want to say that I love how the term "sea lioning" took off.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I love how new terms evolve to fill niches like this. Sea lioning is actually nothing new, but that specific term for it is

[-] thumbtack@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

i haven’t heard it before- what’s it mean?

[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 38 points 1 year ago

It’s from a comic. It’s a form of bad faith arguing where the troll wears you down by demanding more and more proof without providing any of their own, then acting offended when you tell them you’re done debating.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

I thought it was simply about making obnoxious sounds, but then again, that's pretty much what that is

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a small sadness of mine that he chose sea lions, since I'm quite fond of the sea lion antics in San Francisco.

On some days, all the sea lions come up and sun themselves on the marinas, an inconvenience for owners of yachts and sailboats, but to great amusement for the rest of us.

As the law is, we Californians aren't supposed to approach within 150 feet of sea lions, no matter how cuddly they might appear to be. (Don't try to pet them. They don't trust strange humans and will wreck your week.) But when animal control tries to dislodge sea lions from the gangways, another one swims up for a sunning to take its place.

There are some wooden floats near Pier 39 made specifically for sea lions so that tourists can watch them, but there are still sunny days when the marinas are overrun, and rich folk can't get to their boats.

[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

It's a cornerstone of the alt-right playbook, and of Conservatives in general - you never go off the offensive, because it is much easier and looks way better to make other people defend their own opinions than to offer your own to be subject to any critique at all.

https://youtu.be/wmVkJvieaOA

[-] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Yep. The people that argue for conversion therapy are generally not the kind of people that are convinced by actual proof. Sadly.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You misunderstand.

This is proof that conversion therapy works because their goal is to kill us.

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly. While many reich-wingers – being the spineless fucks they are – won't say it out loud, they do want us all dead.

Somewhat oddly I respect an honest bigot more than a bigot who tries to pretend they're not one. Not to say I respect them very much, just that I respect them more than their fellow bigots who lie about what they are.

[-] Pseu@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

My parents briefly discussed sending me to a military-style boarding school because I was not the greatest kid at the time. This one wasn't the "kidnap you and force other kids to watch you pee," kind of place but it did bill itself as structured and instilling discipline.

Naturally, they googled and researched it and places like it. My mom found stories about the stress that such places out on students and research concluding that kids often end up with more behavioral problems rather than less. After that, they never brought it up again.

This kind of research probably isn't going to change minds in an argument, but there are parents of transgender kids who are exploring treatment options. They very well might be convinced by research when it comes down to sending their own kid to conversion therapy.

[-] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

We can certainly hope that parents unaware do do the research rather than falling for the sales pitch, for sure. I'm glad you dodged that bullet thanks to your parents' actual attempt at researching it.

[-] christophski@feddit.uk 41 points 1 year ago

N o s h I t

[-] khaleesa@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gee, who would have thought that suppressing who you are and being taught that it’s wrong could have an increased negative outcome. Crazy, am I right?

[-] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

…according to the latest study from No Shit University and the Sherlock Center for the Obvious.

[-] MinusPi@pawb.social 12 points 1 year ago

How many times does this need to be "discovered"?

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

What if it's just met with acceptance?

[-] Phoebe@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I studied history and choosed science history as my main topic. It is a pain in the ass to explain the difference between serious science and hoax. I really hate it how psycology and psychiatry are getting abused by people, who simply want to uphold their privilege.

I scream to the void now

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago
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