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[-] crystal@feddit.de 185 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One for communists is hardly any different [to one for nazis] as far as I'm concerned.

What do you expect to happen when you call a group of people "hardly any different [to nazis]"?

Communism does not advocate genocide any more than capitalism does. A capitalist society may commit genocide, a communist society may commit genocide. Neither are required to by their economic systems.

National socialism directly advocates for genocide.

It's a ridiculous statement to compare communists to nazis and it's not surprising that insulting communists like that will get you banned.

(Adding islamism to the comparison just makes the statement even more bizarre.)

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it's not a fair comparison. You can say it's a dumb ideology but at the end of the day it's close cousins with big-L Liberalism, and often has been first to the social ideas we hold dear today.

They got banned because lemmy.ml is also a communist-run instance. The mods could have taken the high road and just replied, I guess, but that would have been extraordinary patience. So, they banned the person calling them a Nazi, and I don't think that was an unreasonable choice on their part.

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[-] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago

People hate hexbear and memmygrad because they are annoying.

[-] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I prefer shittygrad

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[-] fhek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 year ago

I left lemm.ee after a mod told me not to use profanity.

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[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The comment might be controversial, but it shouldn't be a bannable offense.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So many people here trying to argue dictionary definitions and hide behind technicalities to make their little slice of authoritarianism better than that other slice of authoritarianism.

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Good lord, look at the replies to this post. Even being called out on the behavior, they still cant resist slapfighting over silly technicalities and dictionary definitions.

[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Communism isn't inherently authoritarian, it holds no relation to authoritarianism or democracy, just like capitalism, and can exist within any political formation. Conflating communism with authoritarianism and capitalism with democracy will likely result in completely justified dictionary arguments, as this misconception is actually very important ideologically.

Associating communism with things like USSR or, in an even more cursed way, China and claiming communism is authoritarian is actively harmful, especially considering that neither of them ever had communism to begin with - they had socialism and claimed to be directed towards communism some time in the future.

Such shortcuts, like communism=authoritarianism=evil prevent you from actually familiarizing yourself with the concepts and puts you in a position when you oppose a strawman.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah no shit if you go to the communist instance and say communists are just as bad as nazis, you're gonna get banned. You even admit to doing this specifically to get banned in your own comment.

Like even though I'm a socialist, I think the guys at lemmy.ml are a bunch of nutjob tankies, but banning people that come to their instance just to be a troll, insult people and purposefully try to get banned isn't actually a bad thing.

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I got a 30 day ban on my .ml account for telling the little troll clowns on Hexbear that their childish meme responses were cringy and embarrassing.

I’m just not going to use that account anymore. Let them drive their own community away. There’s better instances.

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[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

You compared communists to ethno-staters. There's extremist and there's radical.

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[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago
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[-] 1984@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's maybe hard to realize but these moderators wants an environment where their users never see an uncomfortable opinion that upsets their users.

As an adult, I don't have a problem with different opinions, but my teenage son has massive issues with it. He wants to go to war with people over opinions, and if they don't agree with him, they are stupid. So I think it's a maturity thing.

Sooner or later, you realize that people have different opinions, and censoring them doesn't make them go away. The ability to discuss different opinions is what makes someone mature.

Anyway, I can absolutely understand why they don't want to moderate difficult discussions. That's a lot of work.

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