Gas lobby launches new scare campaign on electrification, saying it will break the grid (reneweconomy.com.au)

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[-] prole@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How have left-leaning people in the media (or corporations, neither left or right, for that matter) not figured out how to harness the ease at which conservatives will turn on a product or technology based on who the messenger was? Seems so easy to intentionally manipulate.

Like the gas stove shit (in the US). How simple was it for Fox News, etc., to get millions of people who had no opinion on gas stoves whatsoever minutes earlier, to suddenly be willing to die to preserve their right to own gas stoves against some faceless enemy who is, in their addled minds, coming to their home to forcibly take their stoves away? To have them turn an apolitical scientific /medical discovery into a wedge issue overnight? Similarly with Bud Lite... Soooo easy to manipulate these people's opinions/brand preferences/etc.

There has to be a way to harness that power for good... Like, can we convince them that entering voting machines turn you trans or some shit?

Someone much smarter and more media savvy than I should be doing something like this.

Edit: apologies for the USA- centric references, still getting used to checking what instance I'm on before commenting. Regardless, I think the overall point stands.

Also, seems like corporations have figured it out to a point since this article itself is about gas company lobbying.

Where are the leftists with these tactics? Are we all collectively just too ethical for that kind of dirty shit?

[-] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Where are the leftists with these tactics? Are we all collectively just too ethical for that kind of dirty shit?

Well for one thing in Australia they're not trying to reduce the voter turnout, because failing to show up at the polling booth on election day is a crime in this country (you don't have to vote... but you do have to turn up at the polling booths, or use one of the alternatives available for people who can't do that).

[-] spiffmeister@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I agree it would be good to be able to harness this sort of BS tactic, but I think part of the problem is that the people who generally use these tactics just don't give a shit about what's true. The other thing is that conservative groups and businesses tend to have a lot more money and control over media platforms that left wing groups do, so it's much easier to spread their message.

[-] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Obligatory climate town video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2aZUav-54

[-] peterpan520@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Electric stroves are common in Germany. Probably 95 % of the people have one. We don't have nuclear power plants and we still have a stable grid ;-) just sayin'.

[-] Ducks@ducks.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I'll be changing from gas to induction in October. Excited to get this gas stove behind me with all the known health risks, but kinda nervous as someone who cooks a ton to learn induction. But everyone seems to love it so I'm sure it'll be a fine transition.

[-] RustyRaven@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Induction stoves are great to cook with, I'd say they are better than gas for almost everything. Probably a wok is the only one most people will have an issue with, and having been stuck with an old electric coil stove in the past and managing to make decent stir-frys I really don't think that moving to a flat bottomed wok on an induction stove should be a deal breaker.

[-] landsharkkidd@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

And the chucklefucks on local Facebook groups are gonna eat this shit up.

[-] ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I wish solar panels were more affordable

[-] iNeedScissors67@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I got a quote yesterday for panels on my roof (in the US). $43,000. Fucking ludicrous

[-] NightSicarius@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here in South Australia, we paid $4000 all up for our 6.6 kW solar system just a few years ago. System price was $7600 and we got $3600 back from the STC rebate thingy.