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[-] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 15 points 2 years ago

It must be nice to have leaders that actually do useful things.

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[-] pjb@lemmy.spacestation14.com 10 points 2 years ago

Now require manufacturers to provide like 5 years of OS updates so devices aren't insecure bricks once you get updates.

OR disallow banking apps from blocking custom ROMs/root, so you can just install your own updates ROM without losing updates.

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[-] tonytins@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago

The motherboard is so freakin' tiny compared to the actual battery, there really is no reason for it not to be swappable.

[-] alottachairs@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

Yes! mandatory usb C and replaceable battery, and i'd like the 3mm headphonr jack to also be a standard 😁

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Me too, but that one might be dead for good.

[-] dbucklin@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

Not for any technical reason afaik. My LG G7 is plenty modern and has a 3.5mm jack. It also has Bluetooth, so it's not like it's an either/or choice. It's just the manufacturers dictating what choices consumers have.

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[-] zev@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Out of the phone vendor fuckery with the connector, battery, micro SD, and headphone 3.5mm, the headphones were always the biggest thing.

Bring it back please EU hear my prayers. Right now I’m listening to music on my iPhone with a half broken dongle that pauses if I jiggle it wrong.

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[-] trachemys@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 2 years ago

This is a much bigger demand than the usbc charging. I wonder if they can actually pull it off. I’d be happy with simply the right to be able to use a fully independent 3rd party to replace a battery.

[-] DarkOoze@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

I'm fine with internal batteries, but please use some form of standard cell size and connector.

[-] mateoinc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago

The EU already standarized chargers IIRC.

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I used to have a phone with a replaceable battery and it was awesome. I would charge the other battery while using the phone all day, carefree. When it was about to die, I'd swap out the battery. It was basically like I had an instant charge of 100% on my phone. Those were good days.

[-] darkmugglet@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

And you used to be able to buy super battery packs too. You could get a pack that would power your phone for days.

[-] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't even care about it being super easily replaceable. It would just be nice if the phone wasn't basically filled with glue...

[-] radau@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 2 years ago

All for this. The amount of times I've needed to do a full reset that would've been so much easier with a removable battery is wild. Waiting 10 hours for it to discharge is nuts

[-] gpl@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Any battery is replaceable if you pry it hard enough

[-] iamhazel@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

Every component is replaceable ~by buying a new iPhone~

-Apple

[-] Jeknilah@monero.town 3 points 2 years ago

Now let's hope that the batteries aren't provided in overpriced proprietary formats with a software lock attached to them like Apple's iPhone screens.

[-] LevelUp@dataterm.digital 2 points 2 years ago
[-] wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

The EU has been good at holding phone manufacturers to account on this kind of thing, glad it's gone through. I've had at least two phones die on me through the battery breaking, it shouldn't be cheaper to just buy a new phone than get the battery replaced. So much waste.

Hoping us UK folk will see the benefit of this as I imagine it's less effort to just bring the change about across the board than to be specific about geography.

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[-] exu@feditown.com 2 points 2 years ago

Good. With this, my next phone might also last 6 years, as my last one did. I'm not so confident with my current phone, as it's exactly one of these glued shut types where replacing the battery is extremely difficult.

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I had the battery for my OnePlus 6T replaced, extending the phone lifetime for probably 2 years. It cost me about $100.

Forcing manufacturers to make batteries easily replaceable by the user without special tools and skills seems like it could make phones less lightweight and less waterproof. I would be fine if they just require manufactures to make it available as a reasonably priced service.

[-] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Holy Shit if that holds up it will have massive consequences

[-] narc0tic_bird@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

While that's great, what I'm more concerned about is pricing for original replacement batteries. I don't really care if I have to send my phone in for 2 to 3 days (which is what it took last time I sent an iPhone 11 Pro to Apple), what concerns me more is pricing. Especially with older phones, having to pay $69 to $89 for battery repair (plus shipping) is quite a lot. Self-service parts cost the exact same price from Apple currently.

The EU should forbid charging more for replacement or repair parts than the cost to manufacture them plus a small (!) markup.

Also, please extend this law to include all kinds of electronics (smartwatches, laptops, tablets etc.).

Especially AirPods and other true wireless earbuds should have replaceable batteries, as they are basically dead after 3 to 5 years, which just feels wrong considering everything except the batteries probably lasts a lot longer and when you get an expensive "battery repair" they just give you new AirPods.

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[-] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Does this also apply to EVs? Would be really nice if we could save such large and expensive appliances from planned obsolecense.

[-] GadgeteerZA@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Great news! No point in 5 or 6 years of software updates when the battery gives out after 3 years.

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[-] Cstrrider1@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I like replaceable batteries but there is no doubt that the simplified unibody designs have other benefits besides the planned obsolescence companies seek. Battery life or thickeness will certainly take a hit. I feel like having some form of incentives for more repairable phones would work better to bring better, more renuable options without blockingotherr designs

[-] dark_stang@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We heard the same things from the laptop industry. But framework proved you can make laptop that's modular and still thin. And battery density keeps improving so even if it adds 2mm it'll catch up in a generation or two.

[-] chunktoplane@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

Battery life or thickeness will certainly take a hit.

Modern phones tend to have a big bulge for the camera, so the rest of the phone can be thickened easily without impacting the maximum thickness.

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[-] haych@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Back in the day I used to just keep 2-3 fully charged spare batteries if I went out. No need for a battery pack to recharge if I can just quickly swap battery and get a days worth of charge instantly.

[-] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wish this would and bring replaceable phone batteries back to the US as well, since it would theoretically be easier for brands to just have a single model for all countries, but unfortunately I highly doubt that we'll be the case, as demonstrated by Apple taking extra effort to put geolocation code in their phones that unlocks "sideloading" when you are in Europe but then locks it again when you're outside of your Europe. As it turns out the extra effort it takes to create an exception to your hardware and software for Europe is far outweighed by the extra profit of being able to keep giving a more locked down products to everyone else.

[-] Protowalker@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I'd love it so much if part of the EU's restrictions involved limiting their ability to do these things in other countries as well if they plan to sell products there.

[-] Steinsprut@szmer.info 1 points 2 years ago
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[-] Sabakodgo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Good, now add SD card please.

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