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submitted 1 year ago by SeaJ@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world

TL;DR

  • ASUS has apparently withdrawn the ability to unlock the bootloader on its phones.
  • As per the company’s technical support team, Zenfone 10 and Zenfone 9 users
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[-] XEAL@lemm.ee 123 points 1 year ago

ASUS is apparently killing the posibility of me being a potential customer of their smartphones.

[-] IDeserveToBeLoved@szmer.info 30 points 1 year ago

Rooting users are only a small percentage of all users so they probably won't even notice unfortunately.

sent from rooted phone

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[-] Magiwarriorx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

ASUS annihilated the possibility I'd ever buy any ASUS product after the way they handled the 7800X3D/AM5 VoC issue. I had never really noticed, but a pretty big swathe of my tech came from them (laptop, monitor, and motherboard among others) but no more.

[-] Xperr7@kbin.social 103 points 1 year ago

Oh, fuck off. I'm not one to root my phone, but you own the damn thing. Once it's in your hands, the maker should have no right to tell you what to do with it.

[-] XLRV@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm really tired of this.

We should be able to root and install any OS on our phones like we can do on PC.

I don't use root or custom ROMs on my phone anymore but this is something that should always be possible.

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

Consumers seem to be too dumb for their own good.

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[-] stefenauris@pawb.social 77 points 1 year ago

Well there goes any compelling reason to buy their phones lol

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 29 points 1 year ago

I was genuinely thinking about going with an ASUS phone next because of the unlockable bootloader, this really sucks to see.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of makers doing unlockable bootloaders. Honestly, just avoid Samsung.

[-] kindenough@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My EU S9+ (Exynos chip) is running a custom Android 13 rom without flaws. A lot of Samsung phones can be unlocked. Seems US models (Snapdragon) are the ones that can't be unlocked, few exceptions. Most other countries have the Exynos chipset and are perfectly unlockable.

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[-] herrwoland@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

And there I was seriously considering getting one. Greed is ruining good things again.

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago

Considering their crappy major release and security update support, rooting and flashing custom images is basically a requirement.

[-] cafeina@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Locked bootloader and only 2 years of upgrades? Is not like Zenfones are cheap either. Hard pass!

[-] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 34 points 1 year ago

This is such an anti-consumer move, by refusing to unlock the bootloader Asus hinders the ability of users to extend their devices' life beyond Asus's original support window by flashing alternative ROMs...

[-] OldFartPhil@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

I'd like to see right to repair laws expanded to right to unlock. I think you could make a reasonable argument that a working device that's not receiving security updates is just as broken as a device that's experienced a hardware failure.

[-] ToniCipriani@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

As much as I agree, I don't think our legislators are knowledgable enough to be able to handle the issue, and majority of the users don't care enough to push for something like this. This isn't like USB-C vs Lightning where users are sick of buying cables and chargers, so the issue is much more visible.

[-] Yoz@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Simple fix: stop buying Asus phones. Once their profit drops they will let you unlock bootloader

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Boo you whore. Asus really is just kicking itself in the dick the last 5 years or so.

[-] Psythik@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No kidding, especially with their recent motherboards catching on fire, and then voiding users' warranties for updating to the beta BIOS that fixes the issue, fiasco.

They used to be such a good company; what happened?

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[-] Im28xwa@lemdro.id 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A typical example of planned obsolescence what an effective way of killing my plans to get an Asus phone as my next daily driver assuming this is true

Some important context from the article:

A Reddit user claims that the company’s developer liaison on its Telegram channel has no knowledge of any such development. “According to them, the unlock tool server is in maintenance and will resume in Q3,” the person writes; We’ve written to ASUS to clarify the situation and will update this article when and if we hear more.

But here is the thing why do I need to use a tool to connect to a server just to be allowed to unlock the bootloader? I don't and didn't need such a thing to unlock the bootloader of my Samsung Galaxy phone (planned obsolescence ladies and gentlemen)

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[-] holycrap@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Do consumer friendly phones exist at this point?

[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

Pixel phones are the few ones that you can unlock the bootloader and lock again.

[-] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 9 points 1 year ago

Sony allows unlocking the bootloader on a lot of their devices. Except two new US-specific models, according to their site.

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

fairphone is fully repairable and rootable

[-] pallettownbry@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

This is exactly why I sent my Zenphone 9 back. Shame because it was such a good little phone and one of the few flagships with a headphone jack.

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The end of an era. Companies also locked the bootloader back then and you'll need to find a vulnerability to exploit in order to unlock it. When custom roms starting to become popular, companies relaxed their stance and allowing their customers to unlock the bootloader using an official channel instead of utilizing a security exploits, perhaps as a competitive advantage so power users would recommend them to their friends and family.

Now with declining popularity of rooting and custom roms, companies are starting to stop allowing their customers to unlock the bootloader again. From their perspective, allowing bootloader unlocking is nothing but trouble (support-wise) and might even cannibalize sales (why upgrade your phone every two years when you can install a custom ROM with the latest version of Android), so declining popularity of custom ROMs is a perfect excuse for them to stop allowing bootloader unlocking.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's my device. I will do with it whatever the fuck I desire

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Why do so many phone manufacturers hate letting you unlock their bootloaders? Every Google phone lets you do this, and they probably have the most secure Androids of them all.

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Google shouldn't be our shining light on phone rules lol

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[-] hiire@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Oh come on. I wanted a zenfone, I wanted the compact phone with a headphone jack and actual components. But if they're being cocky about it, there's no point. I guess I'll have to find another brand

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[-] anhydrous@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Looks like my current Zenfone running LineageOS is my last Zenfone.

[-] scarrtt@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I dropped OnePlus for this reason last year, after having 5 models starting the OnePlus 1, and ending with the 8T. Apart from OxygenOS being a buggy mess, I should be able to do what I want with my phone's software

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[-] 1984@lemmy.today 12 points 1 year ago

Asus is really going down the drain...

[-] Whiskeyomega@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My biggest problem with unlocking the bootloader is that many apps look for an unlocked bootloader as "Its rooted" according to that app but unlocking the bootloader and being rooted is 2 different things. I only want to run a custom rom I dont want to root. But you end up having to do the whole thing and running Magisk to hide the root and unlocked bootloader.

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[-] lorez@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

In a while ASUS won't be able to sell its phones in the EU. I guarantee it.

[-] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I really hope the EU requires manufacturers to allow a bootloader unlock. Apple would shit themselves.

[-] StayFrosty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel eventually every company would do the same.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it more likely we'll get to the point where getting a key to unlock the bootloader requires some kind of bullshit businesses license, or else is only possible on higher end phones. Kind of like how Windows is increasingly walling options off from everyone except Enterprise users.

Or the end result of this eSIM shit comes to pass: unlocking the bootloader breaks the SIM and/or the carrier refuses to let it on the network.

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[-] ryannathans@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Buy motorola edge 30

Put lineage on it

???

Profit

[-] i_am_hungry@meganice.online 6 points 1 year ago

What phone should I buy that is not complete trash and I can do what I want with? My Samsung phone is almost dying and I really don't want another Samsung, or Asus.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Xiaomi flagships are easily rootable. If not anything else, you can install Xiaomi.eu roms

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