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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

I can't seem to find that one comment explaining the issue with them...

But for the sake of promoting conversation on Lemmy, what's the issue with Epic, and why should I go for Steam or GoG?

Note: Piracy is not an answer. I understand why, and do agree to a certain extent... But sometimes, the happiness gained by playing something from a legitimate source is far greater 🥹... coming from someone who could never ever afford to purchase games, nor could my parents... Hence I've always played bootleg, or pirated games.

TL;DR

What's wrong?

  • Their launcher has a terrible UI AND UX.
  • They make exclusive deals with studios to prevent other platforms from getting games. (Someone mentioned that Steam did the same thing in their infancy. Also, I have another question; why is it ok for Sony and Microsoft to make exclusive games for their consoles but not ok for these PC platforms to do so?)
  • They have been invested in by a Chinese company, Tencent. (Someone mentioned that it isn't that big of a deal, but idk.)
  • They are actively anti-linux for some reason.
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[-] hightrix@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Nothing is wrong with it. It is just another games store.

[-] macisr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Just my personal opinion

The good clearly are the free games and that some games go cheaper there, they have better sales sometimes. The bad is that the store is badly optimized. The UI is annoying, no cloud saves for a lot of games. As of recently there were no achievements or even a cart, but they have that now which is good. The friends tab is bare bones still. They have aggressive DRM. For some reason it's a pain in the ass to log in, but that might be just on my end.

Now with GOG, you don't have DRM, you can integrate all launchers so you can launch all the games from one, which for me, is pretty useful. GOG has great deals. The bad is that the ui as well is kind of bare bones, but i don't know, they are not trying to take over the market and their store works very well.

As of steam i don't need to say anything, everything is in there. If you play on linux you basically will get every game from steam. They have the most robust launcher with the most options, etc.

That said, personally I use the three of them. Gog primarily since i can launch everything from there and if i find a game in there, i'd rather get it from them. But i've found sales on epic too good to let go so i play those games there. For me it depends on what they're offering, but for some reason i really dislike Epic's layout and ui, i feel like it is very annoying and that it is missing a lot.

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[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

what’s the issue with Epic

Enshittification.

why should I go for Steam

Not sure you should.

or GoG?

I hear GoG tends to be less DRM-y.

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

To be clear, it's not less DRM-y, it's straight up DRM-free.

They had a poll at one point asking the community whether they were fine with DRM-enabled games and/or modern releases. As I understand it, the community said yea to modern games, nay to DRM, so now they do games of all ages but only if they're willing to give up on DRM.

I'm amazed they haven't turned back on that, because a couple years ago they were bleeding money and you can tell they really need to cut costs or increase revenue somewhere. But hey, at least you can back up your library.

[-] EternalWarBear@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

GoG isn't terrible, but is a little bit of a pain with Linux. They don't have native support with the desktop client. Although, there are things like "Heroic Launcher" and "Lutris" that work well as a substitute. Granted most of my experience with those are on my Steam Deck. And it just caused too much pain to get CP2077 working for me. That I got it again on Steam when it went on sale.

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[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Epic Games is useful for the free games they giveaway every week, some weeks better than others. And I know the topic of ownership of these "free games" is another conversation, but I'll take advantage of it while it's there and also while giving them little to no money.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I refuse to patronize Epic until they continue working on UT4. I've been playing their games for 25 years and they make fortnite then decide to just drop all of their long term fans.

[-] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

UT = Unreal Tournament, yes?

My dad got me that game on his old laptop when I was a kid. It barely ran, but boy was it exciting ❤️.

The Plasma gun was my favourite 🫡. Especially in that space level... The one where you could jump outside the windows.

I have a bone to pick with Epic regarding Unreal Engine as well. Terrible optimisation. Any game I play, if made using UE, is terrible.

I've played the first two of the Tomb Raider trilogy on medium on my 4GB GTX 1650, i7 9th Gen, 16GB RAM laptop. This device has pushed me through my engineering and still continues to run most of my work. It also runs Forza Horizon 4 and Red Dead Redemption 2 good enough.

Yet I install Deliver Us Mars, a game with a much smaller scale, and my beautiful beast starts to stutter. 🫠🫠🫠

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[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Epic’s customer service sucks. Consider my last experience from a prior xmas sale:

  • had multiple games in the cart with discounts applied, checked out with paypal, but for whatever reason the communication broke and didn’t go through
  • my cart then got stuck in a limbo where I couldn’t check out with any method to receive the discounts, everything was full price again
  • opened a customer support ticket to get the problem resolved, then went through 3 days of back and forth, explaining the situation over and over because
    • each of your replies are handled by whoever the next agent is
    • who apparently don’t read any history of the ticket, so they provide feedback or advice that already didn’t work
    • and it can take a full 24 hours or more to get a reply that ignores all previous replies
  • by the time the error was resolved by a competent person, the sale was over by only a few hours
  • despite the fact that I only missed the sale window because their reps were incompetent, they refused to make any exceptions to apply the sale prices I had been trying to checkout for 3 days

So, fuck them. I only claim free games from them now.

And I concur with problems other people have mentioned.

[-] BigVault@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

each of your replies are handled by whoever the next agent is

The names of their support agents is truly odd. I’ve seen people post complaints about their support that is little more than this:

Hi, this is Charlie Uniform November Tango here to help.
After receiving all the information that you sent us that we requested, we sadly can’t help because reasons.
Thanks for being an epic gamer.

Hilariously bad.

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