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submitted 2 years ago by tsukii@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I posted this question because I once saw a tweet that said something like:

"If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank"

What is your opinion on this? Do you agree with them?

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[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Advertising is a form of hostile content. Advertisers mean us harm. They might have some tenuous moral right to try to expose me to their manipulation, but I am not obliged to co-operate and my moral right to protect myself is much stronger. This is implicit in every form of advertising. You are not doing anything immoral by buying a magazine and then not reading any of the ads it contains.

Arguments against ad blockers require that there are not alternate ways of exploiting content production, or any reasons to produce content other than financial gain.

[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 2 points 2 years ago

I even sometimes walk out of the room to do something else when the TV adverts come on, otherwise I ignore them. No one has ever accused me of denying a tv channel of revenue.

Wow, there are a lot of comments describing how neccessary it must be to use adblock. I don't think I can actually change anyone's mind here, but I'm going to share my perspective anyway:

While I don't agree with the statement quoted in the original post, I do think that ads are neccessary for most websites I visit to function. Not because of the content creators, but because of the companies running the platforms.

I know, ads can be problematic. But to outright block all ads is no solution. Privacy and data protection are very important to me, so I'm against every form of targeted ads. But just generic or maybe contextual ads? I don't see any harm in that. Malware is mentioned often in other comments. I disable JavaScript whenever I can. That's absolutely enough for blocking all ads to not make any real difference in terms of security. Although I have to admit that blocking scripts also blocks some ads.

But still, I see all ads on YouTube and search engines for example. And I'm happy to see them. It's incredible that such platforms, providing so many people with access to so much content from so many other people can actually exist. There are a lot of resources needed for this.

And if I still don't want to see ads simply because I don't want to? Then I don't have to, even without any adblockers. If I don't think a website is worth the ads it thinks it needs to show me, then I don't have to use it. I can just leave. If it is easy to provide the same service without ads then there must be countless alternatives already.

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[-] imkmiaw@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Been using adblock for years now, I haven't seen a single ad on my devices since then.

Last week my wife used her iPad so we could watch a video and I saw 2 ads in a row, it was kind of a strange experience.

If a creator needs money I'll donate directly to them, and if the only way to support is ads, then what a shame, I'm not gonna watch ads just because of a creator.

[-] s049031@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Absolutely. Ublock origin which also blocks YouTube ads and running a pihole for my home network for the rest of the devices.

[-] baggins@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

I do, because they are my devices and I get to choose what they do. Not some content creator.

[-] Bibez@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I use ad-blockers because I'm not a masochist. 🤨

[-] squirrel_bear@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Yes. When I visit my parents, who don't use adblocker, I get really anxious when I have to face the enormous flood of ads that you get without it. I wouldn't be able to concetrate to anything if I were interupted frequently with ad breaks. I also hate how ads volume loudness has been maximized, so they sound more loud than normal content.

[-] sudoku@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Why not help them and install ublock origin?

[-] sonalder@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I block all ads, I rather tips some moneroj or sats to creators, buy some merch, etc. From my point of view giving 5$ to a creator will be more profitable for him/her than watching a hell lot of ads

[-] Schooner@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank

This sounds a lot like not tipping being a bad thing.

Ads and tipping denigrate my daily experience. So I'm not going to suffer either.

Blocking ads is also just more secure as it's a vector for so many exploits.

In conclusion, I don't agree with them at all.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

The argument to turn off your adblocker is like a circus ringleader demanding the audience’s money for the sake of the lion, even while he beats the lion.

[-] Sentinian@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

I've used it for the past decade. Literally the only time I see ads is when I look at other people's devices and wonder how TF they use them.

[-] FujiTive@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

As I can remember I have always been using ad blockers. The few times I don't is when I buy a new device and I have to setup the browser, but the first thing I search is the browser store and install uBlock Origin. The internet is unusable without it, too many ads, too many sponsored sites. Without an ad blocker I would probably not use internet this much since the experience is awful

[-] SapphicFemme@lib.lgbt 1 points 2 years ago

I used to on my phone, but then i started using foss apps and disabling JavaScript, so i never see ads unless sponsors are in a yt vid i watch

[-] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

You can use sponsorblock to block sponsors in YouTube videos. It comes in the newest version of YouTube revanced

[-] SapphicFemme@lib.lgbt 2 points 2 years ago

No thanks. I'm not using closed source youtube client. Newpipe works perfectly. :) thank you though

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

I use AdBlock because I don't want to sacrifice 70% of my viewport to obxonious and intrusive targetted ads. I never click on ads anyway.

As Louis Rossmann said, supporting a creator directly via patreon Kofi or other means has way more impact than watching ads.

[-] Alpagu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If a creator is really useful, I support them directly through donations or paid subscriptions. Other than that, I can't stand ads.

[-] haych@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, AdGuard Home running network wide, then on my web browsers uBlock Origin on top of that.

Many websites are a cluttered ugly mess with ads and I dislike them. And don't don't me started on trackers.

[-] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

yes :) if i like something, i will pay for it. as opposed to giving google 97% of the creator’s ad revenue

[-] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

On my phone I use personalDNSfilter to block most ads on Android, as well as the Mull browser with the Ublock Origin plugin added. I have always enabled ad block for as long as I can remember being annoyed by ads and I have no plans to stop anytime soon.

[-] pumpkin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I use ublock origin. I don't like the ad model and many ads on the web are privacy invasive. I'm not averse paying for content (something I'm doing for some of it) but I won't watch ads to fund creators.

[-] lynny@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ads are mental poison, so yes.

[-] llIIIlIlIIIIlIIl@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Every now and then I turn off my ad-blockers (Pi-Hole, ABP, uBlock Origin, and Ghostery) for a particular site that I feel bad for blocking...and then re-enable them all once all the adverts -- and sheer volume of trackers -- spew data left, right, and centre. Unfortunately ad-blockers are just like condoms: they keep your machine virii-safe[r]. Much better use of your time, and likely better for a creator's pocket, is supporting them via Pateron or whatever gubbings they offer.

I also have an alternative use for uBlock Origin too -- blocking webpage elements on certain sites (such as WRC) that like to spoil things on their landing page when all you want to do is login and watch the event without being spoiled...!

[-] Monologue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

yes of course i use adblock it is like the condom of internet at this point.

the money that the creators earn from ads per user is such a low amount that my time and attention are not worth it, like for youtube we are talking $0.001-0.002 per video view for an average creator. it is beneficial for both parties if you simply donate and use adblock.

i also find the data hoarding personalised ad model predatory and privacy invasive

[-] series_editor@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i block a lot of the excessive tracking, but not all ads specifically. i think its better to not go to the site at all and find a competitor that does not have as many ads. going to the site when you have that bad of an issue with it sends a bad signal to the people running the site.

[-] BrainTheBest5@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I do. And I do since I don't want to watch ads and being interrupted with the video. I also have a sponsorblock extention. I use those since ads are always the same. I know what NordVPN is and I won't sign up for that thing. Also, ad revenue on YouTube is near zero for creators but fir YouTuve itself I imagine it's pretty huge. So I'm bit damaging my creators. If I want to support them, I'd rather sign up for Patreon.

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