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Trump blocked from Maine presidential ballot in 2024 (www.bbc.co.uk)

submitted 11 months ago by phoneymouse@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 77 points 11 months ago

"I'm mindful that no secretary of state has ever deprived a presidential candidate of ballot access based on section three of the 14th Amendment. But I'm also mindful that no presidential candidate has, ever before, engaged in insurrection."

I like how Trumpers always seem to forget about that 2nd sentence.

[-] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

When you're such a bitchass corrupt sore loser that legal experts need to clear the dusty cobwebs off ancient scrolls and navigate new legal waters because you decided to be the first brainlet to violate laws that no one before you was stupid and unpatriotic enough to even consider attempting.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Amendment, not law. And it was written in the aftermath of the Civil War, this is exactly what it was for.

[-] sighofannoyance@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

The real issue at the heart of all this is that the popular vote doesn't win the presidency.

[-] kelargo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Seriously. Didn't Biden only win by like 43,000 votes in the electoral college?

[-] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

There's only 538 votes total in the electoral college. It was 306/232. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're referring to, then, apologies.

[-] Estiar@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

In competitive states, he won by only 43k votes as opposed to the many more votes he won by in the popular vote. In other words, had those votes been cast differently, the electoral college would be very different

[-] kelargo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

This. And it was too close for those competitive electoral votes.

[-] stringere@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

Republicans have not won the popular vote for a president since HW Bush.

[-] kelargo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Doesn't matter. The electoral college is the only thing that counts.

[-] maxy@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Keep it going!

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Any real impact from blue states barring Trump, or are we just hoping to set enough of a precedent for a red state to actually grow a pair and kick him too?

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

He is blocked from the primary. Blue states still vote in the Republican primary, this means Maine and Colorado will be won by someone else. There is a chance if enough states do it, won't have enough votes to be the nominee

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

If that happens the pay will just change the rules and select him at the convention.

They're all-in with this doomsday cult.

[-] Aztechnology@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Isn't Maine not all of nothing for electoral college votes? So while minor if trump did run he would lose some amount?

[-] thal3s@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Yep, he won a single electoral vote in 2020.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

That's fine, right now it's the momentum that counts. Hopefully other states will follow. I don't know how this process works but I'm hoping he's spread thin enough while fighting them all at once. Maybe that'll do something to his pockets and stress him tf out, idk,

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

No impact because the Supreme Court is going to overturn their interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Maine's top election official has ruled that Donald Trump cannot run for president next year in the state, citing a constitutional insurrection clause.

Secretary of State Shenna Bellows said Mr Trump was not eligible because of his actions leading up to the US Capitol riot in 2021.

Maine now joins Colorado as the two states to ban Mr Trump from the ballot.

The 34-page ruling says that Mr Trump must be removed from the ballot because he "engaged in insurrection or rebellion".

In her order, Mrs Bellows says that Mr Trump "over the course of several months and culminating on January 6, 2021, used a false narrative of election fraud to inflame his supporters and direct them to the Capitol".

She added that his "occasional requests that rioters be peaceful and support law enforcement do not immunize his actions".

The original article contains 148 words, the summary contains 139 words. Saved 6%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

saved 6% wow well done bot

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Wake me up when a state that matters (as in, a state that will have an impact on the likelihood of Trump getting to and winning the general election) does it.

I'm not convinced a red state would dare put their metaphorical balls on the chopping block like that.

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