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[-] mynameisjeff@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

German and French youth did that, they won and nothing happened 🤷‍♂️

[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I still think they should try. It starts a conversation.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 months ago

It is a pretty good argument in debates to be able to say that policticans directly violate the constitution.

[-] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago

What was the exact outcome of the cases?

Is it a situation where the carbon emitters just went to the next municipality or was the outcome legally meaningless?

If every jurisdiction had the same outcome would that make an effect?

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 8 points 8 months ago

In Germany the outcome was a new law, which gave sectors carbon budgets and made the ministries responsible for them have to come up with a plan, if they fail them. The issue is that the ministry for transport is failing them for a few years now and has just refused to come up with any plans on how to stay in the budget of the transport sector. There are some cases against it, but so far the courts refuse to actually force any real changes. The good part is the media has regular reports of the ministry for transport breaking the constitution, the bad part is that actually doing something about it is very clearly going to end up in a bigger shit storm for the ministry.

[-] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago

Damn. Thanks for the informative reply.

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