Good VPS providers providing anonymity (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

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Are there any good VPS providers you would recommend that don't require to much data and where you can pay with privacy friendly payment methods like monero?

I found some on google but I never heard if them before and just because they offer crypto payments doesn't mean they're privacy friendly.

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[-] hburb3ri@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are called bulletproof hosting and are illegal. They get shut down pretty quick for obvious reasons. You won't find any reputable ones for a reason, because they don't want to be hosting illegal content like CP. They also get their IPs blacklisted and automatically marked as spam/suspicious/phishing. It's just a bad idea. You can have private hosting and not anonymous hosting, they are not the same.

[-] MajesticFlame@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

How are they illegal? Under what law?

[-] hburb3ri@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Because they host illegal content and don't comply with laws. You can do a simple google search.

[-] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

https://cloudzy.com/anonymous-vps/

This site for example advertises itself as privacy friendly. Is there any reason not to trust it?

And I am not talking about illegal stuff just want to make sure they dont snoop into what services I am selfhosting without reason

[-] oranki@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Any VPS provider can access your data via the hypervisor if they want, there's just no way to prevent it. It has nothing to do with what payment methods are accepted.

If you want to be sure, you need your own hardware on your own premises.

[-] waspentalive@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Then you move your privacy concerns to your ISP.

[-] tombuben@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Not really. Your IPS cannot look at the contents of your server. Any VPS provider can look at the contents of your RAM, and in turn, break any encryption you use on the device.

[-] waspentalive@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

But an ISP can get all that sweet meta-data from your packets - where they are going, and maybe from your DNS queries.

[-] constantokra@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

What are you wanting to host? There are some ways to limit what they have access to, or increase the amount of work to access it, but it's pretty dependent on the actual services.

[-] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

The main thing I would like to host is a VPN. I pay for mullvad but a lot of their ips are blacklisted. Which is why I'd like a cheap vps to selfhost openvpn to circumvent censorships on some free wifi networks that I use, while also keeping my data private.

[-] constantokra@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

In that case, you'd be connecting to the vps without a VPN. So the company would have your ip, and anonymous payment won't do anything about that. It would help your blacklisting problem, and your WiFi censorship problem though. Just stick with a reputable company. I use hetzner and dedipath and i'm happy with both of them.

[-] mrbruh@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Privex is pretty good in my opinion. You can pay with Monero and they don't rrequire any personal details

[-] Celtic7670@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

https://kyun.host/

[-] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

You can pay for a BuyVM VPS without KYC if you pay in crypto

[-] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You might also just want to read their user agreement. For example, at the time several years ago now, I chose Linode over some others because I liked their agreement better. Not saying what it is now, they have been bought out, just saying that is what I did. Also was not looking for anything specifically private, Was just a solid provider with a sane agreement and a good community.

[-] TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm currently using IONOS, but mainly because they're well-priced and hosted out of my home country. For privacy-oriented VPS services, I found this article after a bit of searching that seems to be decent.

[-] tombuben@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and all of that metadata handling can be properly moved to someone you either trust more or someone who doesn't have enough info to connect it to you. DNS over https, VPNs and TOR exist. All of these systems are secure, but can be compromised by someone with direct on premises server access, if they're skilled enough.

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