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I just want to help! (lemmy.zip)
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[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

Lemme tell you... I'd love to use your knowledge, and have gotten some great tips on other posts and forums. But if the answer to one more of my questions starts with "you just need to .." and then has an extremely vague answer, I'ma pull the rest of my hair out.

That said, I'm building a PC right now that will be Linux based because fuck Windows and fuck Microsoft. Sincerely, a burnt out IT dude tired of hearing what fresh hell patch Tuesday brought.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 4 points 1 year ago

~~Ah that's easy! You just need to install...~~

[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

It happens soooo often it can be really frustrating. But to be fair I think the folks that hang around that sort of tech site or even here are so far ahead of me with Linux it probably feels like talking to a 5 year old in order to "dumb it down" for me. I'm still determined to learn though, dammit!

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

That may be kinda true, I actually regret not annotating what I learned along the way because I would like to be able to explain to others in the way I would have liked to get that information taught to me when I didn't know things, teaching/informing is difficult to get right because you often don't know the knowledge gap between you and the listener.

Good on you for sticking with it! When I started I made my fair share of silly mistakes, still do honestly, I think we are all 5 year olds at heart anyway :P

[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair point. I've been using Obsidian to keep track of what I've learned so far. My memory for this sort of thing is pretty bad. Also to keep track of docker compose yamls I have in use now in case I need to rebuild something. There are similar open source apps out there like Logseq and Joplin, but Obsidian clicked for me the most.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the suggestions, already heard about them, maybe I should actually go in and try, however these days I've been using physical notebooks for random journaling, it's kind of stress relieving

[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 year ago

A few years ago I switched to Linux and I pretty much was like this: I saw a friend who didn't use Linux and tried to evangelize it, saying how it's superior, how everything you do on Windows is doable on Linux, how Microsoft harvests your data and how bloated Windows 10 is.

That didn't really lead me anywhere except pushing people away from Linux because I was practically forcing it onto them. Average experience would be me helping them install Linux and troubleshoot some things (usually via googling for them), but as soon as they hit some roadblock that required more extensive troubleshooting to fix (say, a rarer issue), they'd just quit, resulting in time wasted on both ends. If you don't want to drive people away from Linux and be their dedicated tech support for hours and hours (assuming it's a friend rather than a stranger on the internet), then please don't evangelize it without being asked specifically about it. It's okay to suggest, but let people decide if they want to make the switch themselves.

This isn't specifically targeted at OP or anyone in particular, it's just that this type of mentality seems to be literally everywhere when it comes to Linux corners in social media and this meme reminded me of it.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not trying to push people to Linux. However it kills me to see people struggle and then not ask for help

[-] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Libre software was a movement founded on collaboration and a sense of urgency. Sure you may have not have had the success you wanted, but the reality is that there is no safe, sustainable alternative to it.

Also I reject your usage of the word "Tech support." You're teaching people how to use an operating system (and more importantly a philosophy) they've never experienced before. People are driven away from GNU every day by cheap expensive technology that preys on their vulnerability, you likely never made a dent by telling people about it.

[-] Player2@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

VR gaming :(

[-] Zebov@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

In all fairness, I usually get the opposite. I grew up building DOS systems, but haven't messed with command lines in years. Decided to build an unRAID server and dip my toes into jumping to Linux. If I ever get stuck, can't find anything, and need to reach out, I usually get either "look it up" or "if you don't know, you don't need to be messing with X."

I'll save your username...

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Or just join my community !Linuxquestions@lemmy.zip

[-] tactoid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How is the compatibility with gaming on Linux? There wouldn’t be anything keeping me from switching if I could play most games.

[-] Schlutzkrapfen@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Most of the games work. The only problem linux has right now is anticheat in some games. But you cann look at https://www.protondb.com/ to check which games work.

[-] zloubida@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It depends on the type of game you play. Most problems occur with online games, the vast majority of single player games, even AAA, works on Linux, notably with Steam.

[-] Nithanim@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As I said in another thread, I do not check compatibility anymore beforehand. I install and select the newest glorious eggroll proton in steam and it works. Granted, I play only indie games, so if you play competitive with anticheat I would stay on windows to be safe and avoid the hassle or suspended account.

In regards to performance I don't know if I am missing out.

Edit: https://programming.dev/comment/1457683

[-] zoe@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i want to install anbox (run android on linux), and it has modules that are required to be installed in the kernel (chamem? ) using dkms: first hurdle was that my ubuntu had a kernel version beyond 5.6, so it doesn't allow any modification, then learned that i could boot with 5.19 at startup, but still, i got another error that compiler used (gcc) is of different version than the one used with the kernel. all i wanted is to install anbox 😭😭

[-] heimchen@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

I used waydroid on Fedora and everything works fine

[-] zoe@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

i ll give it a look, thx

[-] lungdart@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

kernel version beyond 5.6, so it doesn't allow any modification

Wut?

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

I feel you, back when I tried installing Anbox it felt like a nightmare, I think I eventually succeeded, but then I noticed how outdated it was and basically dropped it.
Now there is Waydroid that is based on more recent Android versions and it has become super easy to install, even with ARM translation to have compatibility with most Android apps:

[-] zoe@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

i am barely informed about any of this. tbh i like the linux community: everyone is willing to help and share a piece of info. thank you.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

You got it! And yeah, that's the nice part, nearly everyone tries to contribute, I like to think that part of it is to spite Windows and prove that Linux isn't so difficult like all the skeptics say lol, personally I just feel compelled to help anyone if I know I can answer their question, it feels wrong not to

[-] zoe@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ur effort is really appreciated! also using linux help safeguard the environement. if it weren't for it, my laptop would be unuusuable and become e-waste at this point. i am interested also in running ai tools locally: and it requires a lot of dependencies, and many of them run on the latest windows (which cant be installed due to a hardware limitation), on the other hand: linux is lightweight, comes with the latest dependencies and easily gets upgraded, just give it enough ram and disk space and u can see the magic happen.also with linux: helpful community, privacy friendly, full control of ur machine (if u want to) and thus less bloatware: in this case, u actually own ur machine, which is getting less common by time. linux is the future at this point.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

Couldn't agree more! It's OUR OS
soviet anthem plays

[-] zoe@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

discussing commie OS on top of commie social media!

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

One of the best qualities of Arch and other Arch based distros, the ability to use the archwiki.

It can be helpful when using other distros too but on Arch it's exactly the docs your supposed to use.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Anbox

From that wiki it says: Note: As of February 2023, Anbox is no longer actively developed. The developer recommended Waydroid as an alternative.

[-] zoe@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

well according to my simple serf beliefs, i thought that arch would allow more kernel tinkering, maybe thats why it was popular among certain groups, and jokes aside: if i am obliged to learn cui instead of gui, i might as well learn it the solid way (i am still novice at linux, and arch seems kinda intimidating) guess i ll start using arch, idk if it uses different comands other than sudo and so forth..although its still linux, but the documentation is really helpful, also again: i really appreciate ur help. i ll check waydroid instead.

[-] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Android is running on Linux.

[-] HikuNoir@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not perfect but ChatGpt is the fastest way to get linuxy info now. Gone are the days of sifting through a million Solved forum posts where the solution can often be I gave up.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Chatgpt is a privacy and freedom nightmare and I refuse to use it. Its so invasive it needs a phone number

[-] brb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It only needs email tho?

[-] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

ChatGPT is nice until it gives wrong or outdated information. Some regular forums I was in had problems resolved in less than 10 minutes.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I wish it was helpful with more complex programming related issues. In my experience it just made up some believable code or some python module that does not exist. AI is still trash for anything complex.

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

slowly but surely in getting there

[-] uglyduckling81@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've tried several times. I'm pretty test savvy. Last time I tried I said I'm sticking with it for 3 months minimum to get a grip on it.

I lasted about 4 months before I went back to windows.

It just makes life hard. Windows might be tracking every moment of my usage but it just works as Jensen would say.

The amount of hours I spent reading posts and forums trying to figure out how to get things working the way I wanted.

Linux really needs to unify a bit. Stop being so fragmented. It's so stupid having different versions of Linux that require different versions of software to work.

Until a single common standard is adopted it will never gain traction.

Plus they need to get away from the terminal. It's not the 80s anymore.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

The terminal is so much simpler than anything else

[-] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I really don't know your exact path through Linux but there are always options. As with all software, there are some kinks you have to get used to.

If you don't like the terminal, use a distro that can run without it (Linux mint?).

If you want unified apps, use a desktop environment (lxqt, KDE, gnome), all the basic apps come from the same place.

In windows if you want more software, you have to install it, the graphics drivers are fragmented, the browsers are fragmented... I use windows for some work stuff and I find myself using the terminal more since switching to Linux because some commands allow for more customization and I don't like searching GUIs for options.

As always, there is no problem if you don't like Linux, stick to what's comfortable for you. I just try to recommend Linux to chip away at windows marketshare so it doesn't end up being a monopoly in the OS side.

[-] oldGregg@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Honestly why did you even try it? The fact there are different versions and that there is no universal standard, and the power the command line gives the user is literally the foundation of Linux.

If those are your reasons for not liking it you did this to yourself mate. I don't go watch football if I don't like football. I don't drink coffee if I don't like coffee.

[-] uglyduckling81@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I flipped around a few different distros to try them out.

As it currently stands IMO Linux won't be taking market share from Windows.

I actually think the best use case for Linux is for the very old. People that want their computer to work and never change. They only need a browser and a word processor and email. I considered setting up Mint for my mum's PC just so its a consistent and solid experience forever.

She likes playing the Windows card games though with the score board so it ruled it out.

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