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submitted 10 months ago by tardigrada@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

Arctic Ice harvests ice from the fjords of Greenland, and then ships them to the United Arab Emirates to sell to exclusive bars. Using glacial ice in drinks is a common practice in Greenland, and, over the years, several entrepreneurs have unsuccessfully attempted to export it.

Its co-founder Malik V Rasmussen said the ice, which has been compressed over millennia, is completely without bubbles and melts more slowly than regular ice. It is also purer than the frozen mineral water usually used in Dubai’s ice cubes.

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[-] ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee 64 points 10 months ago

When the world starts burning, these guys will be selling marshmallows on the side. Fuck everything about this, from the bottom of my heart.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

You gotta make a living. Why not make a living off of those stupid idiots who value your magic ice over regular ice. It's like selling overpriced paper cards with pretty pictures to kids who love Pokemon. Except kids are kids and these arabs are supposed to be fully capable adults. It's a low risk, high reward game. I can't blame them.

[-] Zworf@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago

Maybe because it makes global warming much worse, shipping refridgerated ice through the air to the desert?

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

I guess you didn't read the article then?

[-] ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Wrong guess.

Harvesting this ice is not carbon neutral.
A ship filled with ice will burn more fuel compared to an empty ship. A refrigerated ship even more so. An ice cube paid with petrodollars to travel a few thousand miles just for some asshole bragging rights, I mean, I can't even... Why is there a demand for this in the first place?

The gall of claiming this a low carbon business is perplexing. Low compared to what, exactly? If I make solar powered freezers in UAE and freeze distilled water, I'm pretty sure I would get the same results at a mere fraction of the total cost. But hey, no bragging rights.

[-] senseamidmadness@beehaw.org 46 points 10 months ago

What a stupid waste of resources. Ice is ice.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago

I hope Greenland just takes the orders but instead uses ice made by huge freezers in Romania.

[-] derbis@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Ditto except why not put the freezers in Dubai

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

I was thinking of maximising profit but maybe Greenland could get a good deal on the packed down snow at the end of the Dubai ski "season".

[-] library_napper 4 points 10 months ago

You havent drank glacier water. It's much more than just frozen water.

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 10 months ago

Pollution and parasites?

[-] Naich@kbin.social 35 points 10 months ago

Just sums up our dumb fucking species.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 26 points 10 months ago

That's dumb, just drink your cocktail with normal ice, or use RO water if you really can taste the mineral content.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 10 months ago

There are specialty companies in New York City that supply cocktail ice, but the ice is designed with a good flavor profile and is completely clear.

[-] BingoBangoBongo@midwest.social 9 points 10 months ago

And this is something that actually makes sense.

[-] library_napper 2 points 10 months ago

RO water would be the opposite of what you'd want if you want all the non-water things in your ice

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The claim here from the summary is that the water is more pure than the mineral water. You could also just do distilled water and customize the mineral content with additions like brewers and sparkling water makers do. I just don't see how it would be cost effective to ship thousands of pounds of glacier ice vs freezing as needed. You could even make a pressurized freezer and probably achieve the same effect.

This business is built on people with more money than sense.

[-] library_napper 3 points 10 months ago

It's not cost effective nor is it pure. Both mineral water and glacier water are far from pure water. People want them because they're not pure, in a chemical sense.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 3 points 10 months ago

That's just some hocus pocus bullshit marketing. No one would be able to pass a blind taste test on these because the alcohol would overwhelm their taste buds.

Again, more money than sense.

[-] library_napper 2 points 10 months ago

Yes but without the alcohol I'm sure you'd taste a difference between ground water and glacial water.Glacier melt has a lot of impurities that gives it a distinctive taste.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 1 points 10 months ago

You're so busy being pedantic that you're missing my entire point, so congrats you win the conversation.

[-] derbis@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People want them because they're posturing conspicuous consumers.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 19 points 10 months ago

I always wonder what they were thinking as they chopped down the last tree on easter island.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 12 points 10 months ago

I put this in the cross post, bit figure it belongs here, too:

While ridiculous, there's interesting context here.

  • Greenland has little to no economy
  • The ice is mined from ice that has already broken away from the glacier, thus not reducing any more than nature has already
  • Cargo ships bringing frozen food used to leave empty, now that same fuel is used to transport ice back instead of going to waste
  • The founder has always dreamed of a sustainable economy for Greenland
  • He is conflicted about how his work to do this in a sustainable way is being taken

Lots of gray here.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 10 months ago

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Click here to see the summaryDrinking a cocktail on top of a Dubai skyscraper may seem decadent enough, but a Greenland entrepreneur wants to add ancient glacier ice scooped from the fjords to the glass, for the ultimate international thrill.

Using glacial ice in drinks is a common practice in Greenland, and, over the years, several entrepreneurs have unsuccessfully attempted to export it.

These parts of the ice sheets have not been in contact with any soils or contaminated by pollutants produced by human activities.

Other reactions and private messages have gone even further, including some comments which, according to Rasmussen, have “verged on death threats”.

The first stage of the shipping, from Greenland to Denmark, is, Arctic Ice argues, of low carbon-intensity, as most refrigerated shipping containers that leave Greenland would have been empty, because the country imports more frozen goods than it exports.

It has now committed to becoming fully carbon-neutral, and once the supply chain has been established and Arctic Ice’s carbon footprint calculated, all excess emissions will be calculated and compensated for, either through carbon capture and storage, or through emerging technologies that suck CO2 out of the air.


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[-] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago

This sounds SUPER sustainable. And THANK GOODNESS the superior humans of the UAE get to drink their hypocritical cocktails with whacky ice!!!

[-] bAZtARd@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

I hate capitalism.

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