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submitted 10 months ago by WadamT@lemmy.ml to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

project will no longer be under active development due to recent events involving Kakao Entertainment Corp's threats to both myself and others

In the upcoming days:

  • Our core GitHub repositories will be taken down
  • The official social media accounts will be closed
  • The official Discord server will be repurposed into a general community for those who are interested in staying
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[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 94 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's sad to see companies threatening completely legal projects, knowing that the volunteering developers don't have the time and money to win a lawsuit against a large company with lawyers. It's nothing less than bullying volunteers, or similar to SLAPP suits.

Edit: typo

[-] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

GNOME once fought off a patent lawsuit, Maybe they could have partnered with a non profit related to FOSS that could have done the "heavy lifting".

[-] whou@lemmy.ml 68 points 10 months ago

i'm so fucking sad that a shitty¹ company was able to bully a 100% legal piece of FOSS to shut down.

It is THE best app for reading manga, and it single-handedly started my love and (healthy) addiction to reading manga lol. It's also one of the best examples on how a FOSS model is superior to any competitive proprietary one.

I hope so much luck to the devs and every contributor. Their work through all these years is immeasurable. Makes me regret a little for not trying to contribute to the community with some code at a time I was wanting to. Thanks for all the hours of fun reading manga. I'm sure at this very moment people are already organizing a fork to live on Tachiyomi's legacy, as is the spirit of FOSS.

[-] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There are already a few actively maintained forks of Tachiyomi. TachiJ2K and TachiyomiSY are two such popular forks which have several features not present in the original app. In fact, many hardcore manga readers in the community had already switched to them years ago. There's also Aniyomi, which not only supports manga but also watching anime via extensions, the same way you'd read manga in Tachiyomi.

So thanks to the power of FOSS, Tachiyomi already continues to live on and you don't need to wait for a fork.

@simple@lemm.ee @junezephier@lemmy.sdf.org @WadamT@lemmy.ml

[-] whou@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

oh yeah, I heard about the already forked projects before, certainly awesome that people already have that option. I do use Aniyomi, and it's pretty damn good.

For some reason I've never felt like I needed extra features that the main project didn't have, so I've never looked out for forks. But looking at some of the forks right now they seem pretty good as well and do have features that would be super useful to me. Certainly will try it out.

FOSS is so amazing.

[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The word needs to get out about this somehow

[-] Mannivu@feddit.it 3 points 10 months ago

Are we sure TachiJ2K will still be developed? I really hope Kakao won't threaten them too.

[-] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Jay hasn't responded yet. I'm still holding out hope. J2K is my favorite fork.

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[-] simple@lemm.ee 57 points 10 months ago

This sucks. Tachiyomi was by far the best app for reading comics, none of the paid options come even close in terms of options or ease of use.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 29 points 10 months ago

It's not like it'll stop working for local files.

You could still get the actual comics anywhere, convert em to .cbz, and chuck em in some folders named by series. In that sense, Tachiyomi should keep working forever.

It's really only the streamlined online sources that'll break over time, and no new features will get added.

Lucky for us, looks like it'll be getting forked and live on as "Mihon".

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

So does Tachiyomi also provide the external sources? My impression was they just did the app, and you got things from elsewhere, but I've never used it (or even heard of it before today).

It's also already got 3 forks, they link them on their website.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Tachiyomi is just a comic reader, but it can aggregate from A LOT of sources, both local files and websites. Each online source (mangadex, tapas) requires a plug-in to work. Those plugins need maintenance and workarounds for stuff like cloudflare blocks.

Needless to say a lot of content hosts aren't fans of a client that pulls content without the user ever seeing an ad or something, so these plug-ins tend to break.

[-] ipha@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

So does Tachiyomi also provide the external sources?

No, tachiyomi is just a browser for other sites.

[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

There's a number of existing forks already. Most of them for porn. For the ones that have integrated with the last Tachiyomi update that removed native extensions, what you'll be able to do is set a repository as an upstream apk source for whatever extensions you want. There's plenty of those already on github. You just have to look for them.

[-] Blackmist@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, as somebody with an ever growing pile of apps that stop working every time I upgrade my phone, I wouldn't count on it.

If somebody doesn't take it over and rebuild for every pointless Android change, it will eventually disappear.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago

I still have apps that I made to work on android 6, working just fine. Android has extremely good backwards compatibility.

The reason tachiyomis plug-ins would stop working is that the sources they pull content from keep blocking them, and there wouldn't be anyone to come up with new workarounds.

Android itself hasn't changed that much unless your app is overly reliant on old app permissions. Which tachiyomi isn't.

[-] Armand1@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

As someone who has used this app for at least 6 years, I am very sad to see this happen.

I'm surprised they weren't able to get away with it after the change in extensions a couple versions ago. By not shipping extensions that have copyrighted content that should have been enough, similar to how emulators, services like Plex and torrenting applications survive.

It's effectively just a comic / manga reader that can be used for piracy when the right extensions are added.

Apparently that wasn't enough, and I can't blame open source devs for not wanting to start a legal battle with a profit-earning company.

For now, the app does allow you to add external repository's (list of extensions for various sources) that are still being updated, and I believe there are at least a few forks of the project that will survive for now.

All I can say is great work to the dev team for sticking with us until now and I wish you luck in your future ventures.

[-] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago

Don't use it but hope it gets the revanced/ cloudstream treatment and survives in another form.

[-] alansuspect@aussie.zone 19 points 10 months ago

I haven't heard of this before, but why is a reader a threat to a company? What's the issue?

[-] War@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

It's not but to a company it's a gateway to threats (extensions) so as far as they're concerned it's a threat.

[-] Tango@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago

Absolutely legendary app and developer that will be missed. The animanga industry is ruthless.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago

We really need federated source forges on anonymous networks like I2P.

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[-] Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Unironically thank you for licensing your comments! :)

[-] twei@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago
[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

Then the devs could be anonymous and the their repos couldn't be taken down.

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[-] twei@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago

Okay, but why? Can't you do that with selfhosted gitea/gitlab/forgejo? Remember that access to the instance has to be easy enough that normies can use it, so I guess having to figure out i2p is not viable

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

Because they you can ignore takedown requests and just focus on working on the project, not fearing lawsuits.

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[-] library_napper 2 points 10 months ago

Developers have a right to eat and pay for a roof over their head. NC prevents that.

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[-] junezephier@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

unfortunate to see, it's been a great app for a long time. Anyone know of an alternative that's good? I mostly just read on mobile through firefox on mangafire now, but would love if an app offered a better experience

[-] WadamT@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago

A long time contributor of Tachiyomi plans to continue the work under a new name 'Mihon'. Reddit post

[-] Mannivu@feddit.it 5 points 10 months ago

There are forks (I use TachiJ2K) but who knows what their future will be.

[-] rizoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm using kotatsu but I mainly read the marvel and other English comics so idk how good it is with manga but it's got a similar sources list to tachi.

[-] phourniner@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I feel kotatsu is better because you don't have to download all those extensions like tachiyomi did

[-] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

This is why I need weaponized drones.

[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago
[-] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Nah I'm broke

[-] Chaewon@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Tachiyomi was so good that I literally kept my old android around only for that app.

Suwayomi still exists but it relies on Tachiyomi extensions so I don't know how useful it's going to be going forward.

Frick Kakao!!

[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

I saw this as Jo-ever, and not J'over.

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