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[-] Gigan@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

A lot of forensics techniques are turning out to be unreliable. I wonder how many cases were resolved primarily based on ballistics evidence that should be overturned or at least reviewed?

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

"There was a study called Ames 2, and what that study found that when they tried to reproduce the opinions of one examiner versus another examiner, they found that over 50% of the time, the second examiner came to a different conclusion on the same evidence than the first examiner," Gilleran explained.

Yeah, that's pretty damning.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

i always thought the whole, bullets being like fingerprints thing, didn't make sense.
i could see them narrowing down the type of gun... but not the exact one...
especially since they're regularly disassembled, cleaned and oiled...

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

They can allegedly match the rifling marks left on bullets to barrels, but if you think about it, the barrels of thousands of guns are probably machined with the same tools, using the same drill press or whatever to make the barrels hollow and cut the rifling into them.

Also matching a caliber could be tricky since there are numerous cartridges that use an approximately 9mm sized bullet (among others). For example a 9x19 standard 9mm cartridge uses a .355" diameter bullet, and a .380 Auto bullet is .355" diameter, and a 38 Super bullet should be .356" diameter, and a 38 Special bullet should be .357" in diameter, and a .357 Magnum is .357" in diameter. But if those cartridges were loaded with solid lead bullets instead of copper encased bullets, they should be sized .001" larger in each case. And then they are being forced down the rifled barrels at extremely high speed and pressure and temperature. Lots of room for mixups

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The machine tools used to cut the barrels and other parts have replaceable cutting elements, but your point still stands - nobody is keeping track of how many barrels or which barrels were turned with what cutter on what day.

There's an even more damning argument, however. All a potential murderer has to do is shoot a couple of boxes of rounds through their gun before shooting their victim. Then they clean the gun and would you look at that, the clean barrel makes different marks than the dirty one.

Edit: I remember that I could fire .38 special through my .357, and I often did for target shooting because it was cheaper.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Most forensic science is not reliable.

It’s interesting how much of it is junk science.

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