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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev

I've used a US-QWERTY keyboard layout my entire life. I've seen other layouts that do things like reduce the size of the enter/backspace keys, move the pipe operator (|) and can't wrap my head around how I would code on those.

What are your experiences? Are there any layouts that you prefer for coding over US English? Are there any symbols that you have a hard time reaching ($ for example)?

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[-] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Pro tip for fellow yuropean devs: you can change the layout, and learn it easily.

Pro tip for fellow ISO enjoyers living in yurop: a keyboard on Amazon costs 20$. If you're using a laptop you can order one from the UK, it's mostly the same, except beware of the mental asylum layouts that move this | key to the bottom left. You can also buy a laptop from amazon.com if you filter by "global shipping". Power bricks always work with 110/220/240, the cable that goes into the plug is easily exchangeable for 10$.

Some premium brands let you choose the layout. E.g. xmg, slimbook.

[-] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Pro tip for enjoyers of any layout: You don't need to buy a different physical layout to type in a different layout. You can just switch it out on the software side. The computer has no idea and does not care what's printed on the keycaps.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago

I'm using the Czech keyboard, I've put in the time to learn where the various symbols are because I didn't really want to switch constantly between CZ and US like most programmers do. When I write something like těžiště I prefer it not to look like t26i3t2, then delete it, switch keyboards and write it again.

Regarding the various types (like long/short enter, pipe symbol position etc.) I don't have a particular preference, when I switch laptops, I make mistakes for a while, then get used to it

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

On UK keyboards the £ replaces the $ and $ replaces '

Double quotation marks " are in the same place though so a lot of british programmers don't use single quotation marks because they are hard to press. If your touch typing you have to reach all the way to the bottom right with your right hand little finger and it's just not worth it.

[-] pkill@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

I'm using a sligntly modified Niro layou (in a way that makes it more ergonomic with vim). Though I might need to adjust it since lately I began feeling disproportionate strain on my right ring finger.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I use Spanish QWERTY layout and it's... weird for coding.

I'm used to it from my whole life so that's what I use but sometimes brackets or special symbols are weird.

I've always wanted to change to use US-International layout. So I can keep ñ and áéíóú, and also have easy access to coding symbols. But I have never got around it.

Anyhow I still think that whoever designed ISO layouts messed up. We should use US international layout. That's my two cents.

[-] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

I use US-QWERTY but with the pipe/backslash key as backspace, and the key where backspace usually is gets turned into two keys, pipe/backslash and grave (yes, there is a keycode for grave (`) by itself).

[-] dukatos@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I use US layout for programming because it is way better than SR latin. For documents and mails, I use both variants - latin and cyrillic.

[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I'm Czech and also speak fluent German, but I rarely use my native languages on my personal PC, so I got used to the US layout. Nowadays I use US layouts that have my native letters on the AltGr key, my Linux pc has an "American - Czech, Slovak, German" layout like that and at work on windows I use the Czech Programmer layout. However, most of my coworkers use the regular Czech keyboard, even for programing, which freaks me out.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

I’m having to use US keyboard layout in Oz and not enjoying the half-height Return key very much.

[-] Blaberus_sp@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I'm using a Dygma Raise split keyboard with Dvorak as my main layer. The thumb clusters are great for putting difficult to reach keys in more comfortable positions. Second layer has NumPad, Directionals and Functions. Still trying to decide how to make the best use of my other layers.

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I use the International keyboard because it allows me to type a lot of symbols, but US also serves me fine

Edit: to program, I use the US layout.

[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

I alternate between US-QWERTY and LT-QWERTY. My biggest problem is typing ž instead of =

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