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[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 22 points 8 months ago

We. Were. Always. Sovereign.

[-] Tweak@feddit.uk 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That wasn't what Brexiteers were campaigning for. They were going for the type of sovereignty in William Rees-Mogg's book "The Sovereign Individual", in which he defines one as someone who earns more than $200,000 a year (in 1990s money) and uses their wealth and influence to act above the laws of any nation. The EU stood to prevent that, so they pushed for the UK to leave - and duped a bunch of gullible fools into believing it was about them and "hour cuntry".

The sad thing is they pulled the same tricks again in 2019 to get Boris into 10 Downing St. Facebook ads targeted at people who would lap it up, things like showing bread lines and saying this is what Corbyn would have brought. Such ads excluded those that would challenge them and call out the lies, leaving people in a nice little echo chamber with no time to be corrected before they went to the polls.

In the words of Zuckerberg, the dumb fucks.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

things like showing bread lines and saying this is what Corbyn would have brought

Now there are warm banks instead

[-] rah@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They were going for the type of sovereignty in William Rees-Mogg's book "The Sovereign Individual"

I've read that book and it is entirely unrelated to Brexit. The sovereignty the Brexiteers were seeking is also entirely unrelated.

[-] Tweak@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

The book itself doesn't talk about Brexit, no, but if you read my comment I mentioned how the EU was planning on restricting the kind of activity the book describes.

With regards to campaigning, the point I'm making is that whenever campaigners like Jacob Rees-Mogg talk about "sovereignty", he's referring to what the book mentioned. Meanwhile, the people supporting Brexit think it's about UK sovereignty.

[-] rah@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

the point I'm making is that whenever campaigners like Jacob Rees-Mogg talk about "sovereignty", he's referring to what the book mentioned

And the point I'm making is that you're wrong.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

“I can certainly remember as business secretary myself back in 2019, every day meeting with businesses, roundtables, to help them to prepare for us actually leaving the European Union and to understand the additional checks that would be required.

"We warned them we would be going in dry. Why are they complaining about a bit of anal bleeding now?"

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

The NHS has considerably more than £350m a week and we’ve signed up to 70 trade deals

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[-] Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 11 points 8 months ago

I work for a a UK food manufacturer which did export 40% to the EU. The added costs of getting food over to EU resulted in the sales teams having to renegotiate the selling prices to EU customers. Most basically said no. Why should they pay a higher price when they can source the same type of product within the EU at a lower price. The big EU buyers stopped trading with us.

When politicians say businesses need to adapt I really have no idea what they have in mind when they say that. We are not in a position to demand customers pay more. And most businesses aren't in a position to swallow additional costs. The only reason our business didn't sink is because it's part of a much larger group so was able to flatten out the financial impact by borrowing internally.

I'm starting to think "adapt" means tough shit.

[-] theinspectorst@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

And we'd like the refund, please.

[-] kralk@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

The podcast "the news agents" had a good bit where they played a clip of Andrea Leadsom saying categorically this would not happen, followed by Leadsom saying "we knew this would happen all along".

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