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[-] bunbun@lemmygrad.ml 67 points 10 months ago

Holy fucking copium. The entire thing is "we're only interested in our national and strategic interests, but that's actually good for both parties".

The year began with the relationship at a historic low point. A year ago this week, a Chinese spy balloon traveled across the United States

Lmao

[-] huf@hexbear.net 45 points 10 months ago

holy shit why do they bring that up? i thought they decided to memory hole that entire pathetic tantrum...

incredible losers.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 10 months ago

Nah, they’re still convinced PRC was trying to spy on the US

[-] huf@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

nah the PRC is spying on the US, they're right about that much. but they're spying using satellites and real spies, you know, adult stuff :D

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I’d be shocked if the U.S. wasn’t also trying to spy on the PRC

[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

They do, but their spies keep getting caught lmao

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 9 months ago

The liberalism keeps giving them away ☣️

[-] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

the US spies on its allies, of course it's gonna try to spy on china.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Biden barely has shit on his resume from the past 4 years and a fuckton of his potential voter base hates him. They're trying everything to increase his chances.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

so...

  • he was a lifeguard at a pool
  • he shot down a very scary balloon

and this man has a good chance of winning the election, as i understand it. well.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is actually the best version of his resume. The 60 years in between are not pretty at all

[-] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 9 months ago

It's funny because they legit admitted it wasn't a spy balloon months after they blew it up and then waited a while and went back to it after everyone forgot.

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 9 months ago

Basically everyone I know wholeheartedly believe that the balloon was for espionage purposes.

[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 10 months ago

historic low point

When your knowledge of China dates back to maybe the Nixon administration

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 10 months ago

That’s because when Biden brings up the 1940s, everyone collectively says ok boomer and asks why he’s not in a nursing home yet

[-] miz@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 10 months ago

We also saw something that really stood out, which is that the PRC believed the United States was in terminal decline — that our industrial base had been hollowed out, that our commitment to our allies and partners had been undercut, that the United States was struggling to manage a once-in-a-century pandemic, and that many in Beijing were openly proclaiming that “the East was rising and the West was falling.”

[-] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 9 months ago

Lol, "believed"

You mean "observed reality"?

[-] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

where's the lie?

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago
[-] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 months ago

THEY SAID THE LINE

CAN I GET A CHUD EMOTE?

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 10 months ago
[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 10 months ago

Shameless bullies.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 10 months ago
[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 10 months ago

Nelson haha dot gif

[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 9 months ago

So new strategy now right? Develop positive relations with China and then everyone benefits?

Lmao.

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This sounds like a prelude to announce their new strategy. But the strategy seems already clear - they called Taiwan their "important military ally", an incredible provocation. So they are going to try to do the same to China they did to Russia, encircle them on all sides, set a trap, until they lash out. Then they are the bad guys. Hopefully China is smarter than Russia though. But they can't let Taiwan become an "actively" hostile military outpost of the US right on their doorstep. But I don't really know what moves either side can realistically make since the economic dependencies are quite strong.

[-] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

The US will lose in a fight against China over Taiwan. And after Ukraine and Gaza most of the world will not care about its sobbing, they will not believe the west's claims of standing for this or that and they will stand with China. All they will succeed in doing in instigating a conflict with China is bringing out into the open the new cold war.

It's not desirable. It's not optimal, it threatens chaos and all kinds of untold consequences but it is probably much more manageable now that it was before Gaza and Ukraine.

[-] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

These Dept of State ghouls always parrot the same line that somehow China is cheating and it's unfair. Quote: "all while addressing the PRC’s non-market practices"

It's fucking hilarious they can't seem to grasp that there are no rules here and that somehow China kicking their ass is just so unfair and cheating. Like what you gonna do, take your ball and go home?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago

It's an intentional effort to create the impression that the rules US wants to impose on the world are some kind of international law.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

Marxism-Leninism is a pathway to many abilities some consider to ne unnatural

[-] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

Depending on how you're counting, China is 10x older than the US. It takes a special kind of naivety to think that the nephew can get one over on the uncle.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

arrogance and stupidity tend to go hand in hand

[-] davel@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago

Wake up babe, new threat of a good example.

[-] space_comrade@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago
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