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AMD GPUs are cursed for me (lemmy.world)
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Each time I try AMD graphics, something is fucked for me. Back with fglrx, fglrx just sucked, so I used Nvidia. Then I had an AMD right around when they finally had opensource drivers, but it was still buggy as hell. So I went with Nvidia again (first a GTX 790, then a GTX 1060). In the meantime I had a new work notebook where I also went with an AMD APU, and had driver crashes for a long time when I was in video calls and it had to decode multiple streams. That thankfully stabilized with Linux 6.4.

Since sooo many people in the community swear by AMD, I thought "dammit, let's try it again for my new desktop" and got an 7800rx ... and I have to reboot ~5 times until I finally make it to a running xserver or wayland session. Apparently I am hit by this problem (at least I hope so). But that doesn't even read nice ... the fix seems to be to revert another fix for powermanagement. So I either have a mostly non-booting card or suboptimal power management.

I start to regret having chosen AMD .... again :-/ I seem to be cursed.

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[-] Fredol@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

the most bug-free gpu experience I have with Linux is Nvidia GPU + KDE X11 with compositor disabled. Pure bliss. I've had a 6700XT and it was terrible too, now I have a 4070. For my laptops, intel igpu works decently well with wayland KDE, but there are few bugs, like having to clear some apps gpucache (vscode) quite often

[-] aksdb@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

At least with my 1060 compositing wasn't an issue. But true, I rarely used Wayland. Do you have specific issues when compositing is enabled or do you just prefer the simpler rendering?

[-] Fredol@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I prefer without for the aesthetics but also for functionality: compositing x11 with multi monitors of different refresh rates is still broken, everything becomes locked at 60hz instead of the max for each monitor.

[-] anteaters@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Update: today I was able to update to kernel 6.7.5 and the issue disappeared for me.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

If it makes you feel any better you're not the only one. I also have this problem. Whenever it was time to upgrade my video card I'd try Ati and later AMD and it would always have some annoying issues. Meanwhile I'm on my 7th or 8th Nvidia card over the years and they're always great.

[-] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I've had similar issues. I don't understand the love for AMD. My whole rig is AMD, but it's constantly having GPU crashes. All games run at high FPS and my CPU temps seem nominal. But the games will crash. Everything from RimWorld to Baldurs Gate 3. They all run pinned at 60fps but randomly crash. I've tried a thousand different configurations and drivers. I've tried Ubuntu and Linux Mint. I'm now just accepting that I can't rely on it as a gaming rig. I like that AMD is trying to be progressive with open source drivers but the quality doesn't seem to be there. My next rig might be Nvidia and Intel. But we will see.

[-] bazsy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Did you check the system logs to see what caused it?

Many things can result in seemingliy random crashes. Any overclock (including XMP and Expo) or undervolt or even a bios version can be problematic.

I would check first if it's stable on windows.

[-] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's not stable on Windows either. But I haven't looked at logs because I didn't really know what - or how - to check.

[-] bazsy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Most distros use systemd and its logging solution: journald. You can use journalctl to read the logs around the time of the crash for e.g.:

  • journalctl -S -5m this shows the last 5 minutes. Use this when a game crashes but the system continues working and did not reboot.
  • journalctl -b -1 -S -10m this shows the last 10 minutes from the previous boot. Use this if the crash froze the whole system and rebooted.

Look for red lines (errors) and what wrote them. AMD GPU faults usually have the 'amdgpu' mentioned, memory errors could appear as 'protection fault'.

[-] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

journalctl -S -5m

Looks like this is the errors I'm seeing. I know it's not helpful to just drop this in the chat, but I'm doing it for posterity (and to let you know your comment did in fact help me)!

Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_dm_commit_planes.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Waiting for fences timed out!
Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout, signaled seq=17063130, emitted seq=17063132
Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process GameThread pid 161654 thread redDispatcher9 pid 161668
Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: amdgpu: GPU reset begin!
Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: [drm:amdgpu_ring_test_helper [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring kiq_2.1.0 test failed (-110)
Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:gfx_v10_0_hw_fini [amdgpu]] *ERROR* KGQ disable failed
Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: [drm:amdgpu_ring_test_helper [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring kiq_2.1.0 test failed (-110)
Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:gfx_v10_0_hw_fini [amdgpu]] *ERROR* KCQ disable failed
Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:gfx_v10_0_cp_gfx_enable.isra.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to halt cp gfx
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[-] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you! This is super helpful.

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